08-11-2006, 12:08
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Guilty x3
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Three men have been found guilty of the racially motivated murder of Glasgow teenager Kriss Donald.
Mohammed Faisal Mushtaq, 27, Zeeshan Shahid, 28, and his brother Imran Shahid, 29, had denied the charge.
However, a jury at the High Court in Edinburgh convicted the men of the abduction and murder.
The 15-year-old schoolboy was snatched in Pollokshields, stabbed and then set on fire in March 2004. The trio are due sentenced later today.
Kriss was knifed 13 times and burns covered 70% of his body
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Well, I'm sure they didn't mean to kill him.....
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08-11-2006, 12:11
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Re: Guilty x3
How can anyone do something like that, a terrible way to go R.I.P. Kriss
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08-11-2006, 12:13
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Re: Guilty x3
particularly brutal. horrible.
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08-11-2006, 12:14
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Re: Guilty x3
From what has been said on the news, the lad had nothing to do with the earlier assault that took place which caused the Asian lads to go in search of a target and the 3 lads just grabbed the first white male that they saw. Bl**dy disgusting behaviour to be honest and it's been reported that the 3 Asians have been causing trouble in the local community for years
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08-11-2006, 12:18
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Re: Guilty x3
It will be interesting to see what the minimum term before parole will be. 35-40 years going on past experience, and pretty well deserved given the facts of the case.
I reserve the right to make a comparison between three non-terrorist Asians who actually did brutally murder someone and then denied it and the Bhorat case yesterday where he only fantasised about it and then pleaded guilty. Since they'll get about the same punishment this will again show up the ludicrously over-the-top nature of the Bhorat case.
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08-11-2006, 13:21
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Re: Guilty x3
Please take personal differences to PM.
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08-11-2006, 13:24
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Re: Guilty x3
From the BBC news website -
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The Shahid brothers were sentenced to 25 years each. Mushtaq received 22 years.
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08-11-2006, 13:27
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Re: Guilty x3
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Originally Posted by BBKing
It will be interesting to see what the minimum term before parole will be. 35-40 years going on past experience, and pretty well deserved given the facts of the case.
I reserve the right to make a comparison between three non-terrorist Asians who actually did brutally murder someone and then denied it and the Bhorat case yesterday where he only fantasised about it and then pleaded guilty. Since they'll get about the same punishment this will again show up the ludicrously over-the-top nature of the Bhorat case.
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How can you compare the case where one poor soul was murdered with a case where if he had been left to carry out his plans, hundreds of poor souls would have been murdered?
If only the police had been able to stumble across their plan to murder Kriss (I know it was impossible), like they have been with Bhorat, just think of the lives they saved there.
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08-11-2006, 13:29
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Re: Guilty x3
with my diplomatic corps hat on i can see the point bb is making (and the socio-politico-legal background against which it is set) but nothing can really detract from the horrific nature of this particular crime.
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08-11-2006, 13:43
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Re: Guilty x3
to be fair they did kill someone whereas the other fella intended too. but i think we're a bit sidetracked here ;-)
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08-11-2006, 14:00
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Re: Guilty x3
"The 15-year-old schoolboy was snatched in Pollokshields, stabbed and then set on fire in March 2004."
Dear God... Where does this type of anger and hatred come from?!
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08-11-2006, 14:28
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Re: Guilty x3
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Originally Posted by scuzz
Dear God... Where does this type of anger and hatred come from?!
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"a random act of racially motivated revenge" apparently. revenge for what? no-one deserves to die in that way.
drawing what little positives you can from this, the police seem to have got a lot of co-operation with their investigation: "Asst Ch Const John Malcolm, of Strathclyde Police said: ......."It is also important to acknowledge the support of the broader community.
"Everyone came together to support and inform our investigation, and through these actions, the community made it very clear that this sort of violence is unacceptable and will not be tolerated in any community
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08-11-2006, 16:37
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Re: Guilty x3
I'd hang em.
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08-11-2006, 17:21
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Re: Guilty x3
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Originally Posted by AntiSilence
I'd hang em.
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please no, not another death penalty debate ;-)
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08-11-2006, 17:23
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Re: Guilty x3
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please no, not another death penalty debate ;-)
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LOL... No debate about it!
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