Is there an NTL PVR?

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

wow......thats negative!

Have you considered that it might actually work/be better than sky+ ?

Have you considered that ntl have never released a DTV product that even comes close to Sky/Sky +?

What makes you think that they're going to get it right this time?

Even if they do, there won't be any HDTV content showing on it, so it will still be behind Sky in terms of what you can watch.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Neil

Have you considered that ntl have never released a DTV product that even comes close to Sky/Sky +?

What makes you think that they're going to get it right this time?

Even if they do, there won't be any HDTV content showing on it, so it will still be behind Sky in terms of what you can watch.

How can you be so negative about something you have never seen or used. I do know for a fact that it is the same the Telewest TVDrive so as long as it works with the NTL software properly it will be vastly superior to the Sky+ service.

There will be some HD content on the VOD and I think the BBC HD channel and some others will launch at sometime in 2007(early I hope)

[Neil]

Originally Posted by DarthYoda

How can you be so negative about something you have never seen or used. I do know for a fact that it is the same the Telewest TVDrive so as long as it works with the NTL software properly it will be vastly superior to the Sky+ service.

How can you be so positive about something that you have never seen or used?

Originally Posted by DarthYoda

There will be some HD content on the VOD and I think the BBC HD channel and some others will launch at sometime in 2007(early I hope)

By the time that arrives Sky's HD Premiership Football/rugby/cricket/movies/Nat Geo/Discovery HD/Sky One channels will all have been out for a year-so how exactly is that "vastly superior"?

As usual ntl are last out of the traps-they are followers, not leaders & for this reason ntl will never be superior to Sky DTV product.

[ian@huth]

All this bickering about who has and who has not got a PVR, what spec these are and how they perform in the customers home is pointless.

Sky have a PVR.

NTL do not have a PVR except in areas that were run by Telewest.

When NTL eventually get round to marketing a PVR in areas that were not run by Telewest how will it perform? It is one thing having a PVR and another thing having one that works to customers satisfaction. It is hard to believe that NTL will not have performance issues with its PVR when it at last launches.

The launch date for the NTL PVR is some time in the future which gives Sky a lot of time to enhance their PVR service. What have they up their sleeve that may persuade customers to go with them rather than cable. Remember that Sky+ boxes have had a proportion of their hard drives reserved for future use by Sky. There have been several guesses as to what the future use may be but which of them is correct.

NTL have VOD (in some areas) but realistically what is so good about it other than it letting you watch a limited number of programmes that you had forgotten to watch when broadcast live. Is there anything available on NTL VOD that a Sky+ user couldn't have recorded when broadcast?

Originally Posted by Neil

As I have already said, ntl's PVR box/service will be inferior to Sky's.



The end.

And you expect us to take you seriously when

A. you have not seen the box but you say it will be not as good as sky.
B. Don't know what the box is like so you say its not as good as Sky.
C. Anything with NTL in it you slag off and pull apart while you expect us to listen to your BT and Sky are better rants.

For your information i now have VOD which works and works well. Tell me how when and where i can get the SAME service from Sky NOW. And i mean like for like not there crappy sky by broadband.

I honestly cannot take anything you say about NTL with any grain of truth anymore because of your complete and utter hatred of NTL which in my eyes makes you unable to comment about them with any sort of composer or sense other than your NTL are crap Sky\Bt are fantastic and never do anything wrong statements.

Ban me suspend do what you want i am just stating a fact.

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Originally Posted by ian@huth

All this bickering about who has and who has not got a PVR, what spec these are and how they perform in the customers home is pointless.

Sky have a PVR.

NTL do not have a PVR except in areas that were run by Telewest.

When NTL eventually get round to marketing a PVR in areas that were not run by Telewest how will it perform? It is one thing having a PVR and another thing having one that works to customers satisfaction. It is hard to believe that NTL will not have performance issues with its PVR when it at last launches.

The launch date for the NTL PVR is some time in the future which gives Sky a lot of time to enhance their PVR service. What have they up their sleeve that may persuade customers to go with them rather than cable. Remember that Sky+ boxes have had a proportion of their hard drives reserved for future use by Sky. There have been several guesses as to what the future use may be but which of them is correct.

NTL have VOD (in some areas) but realistically what is so good about it other than it letting you watch a limited number of programmes that you had forgotten to watch when broadcast live. Is there anything available on NTL VOD that a Sky+ user couldn't have recorded when broadcast?

I agree. My Sky+ box is the bee's knee's however to slag NTL before anyone has seen the box is very stupid in my eyes. And having paid for a 160 box WHY can i not use the full potential of the drive. It annoys me that Sky can take some of the drive i paid for ?.

Well it's taken NTL long enough to get a PVR box and VOD is crap (IMO) I want a pvr service rather than vod anyway! (But that's just me)

However i will say it's pretty hard to dis something you have not seen let alone used!

Sky by broadband is crap full stop!

And Sky's pvr box's are crap, I mean come on amstrad???
(Say no more)

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by acoolwelshbloke

Well it's taken NTL long enough to get a PVR box and VOD is crap (IMO) I want a pvr service rather than vod anyway! (But that's just me)

However i will say it's pretty hard to dis something you have not seen let alone used!

Sky by broadband is crap full stop!

And Sky's pvr box's are crap, I mean come on amstrad???
(Say no more)

Not all are amstrad, there are Pace boxes as well

[Neil]

Originally Posted by acoolwelshbloke

Well it's taken NTL long enough to get a PVR box and VOD is crap (IMO) I want a pvr service rather than vod anyway! (But that's just me)

However i will say it's pretty hard to dis something you have not seen let alone used!

Sky by broadband is crap full stop!

And Sky's pvr box's are crap, I mean come on amstrad???
(Say no more)

They don't only use Amstrad.

Originally Posted by gazzae

Not all are amstrad, there are Pace boxes as well

I have a thompson box which is very good

Pace no longer supply sky with any equiptment, well they were in talks with sky about re-supplying them but I do not know if they have started to do so at present!

You can only get amstrad or thompson boxes at present and most get amstrad! No way am I paying £150 for an amstrad!
(Was told so by sky the other day when I called about getting sky+)

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by acoolwelshbloke

Pace no longer supply sky with any equiptment, well they were in talks with sky about re-supplying them but I do not know if they have started to do so at present!

You can only get amstrad or thompson boxes at present and most get amstrad! No way am I paying £150 for an amstrad!
(Was told so by sky the other day when I called about getting sky+)

No idea, its still listed on the Pace website - http://www.pace.co.uk/emea/products/...=DSAT-TDS470N#

If you want Sky+ then buy yourself a Pace box off Ebay and stick your own hard drive in it.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Neil

How can you be so positive about something that you have never seen or used?

How do you know I haven't seen it or tried it ??

Originally Posted by Neil

By the time that arrives Sky's HD Premiership Football/rugby/cricket/movies/Nat Geo/Discovery HD/Sky One channels will all have been out for a year-so how exactly is that "vastly superior"?

As usual ntl are last out of the traps-they are followers, not leaders & for this reason ntl will never be superior to Sky DTV product.

Ok maybe not superior channels but the boxes will be better. Who cares if NTL don't come up with new services first. Well except VOD. Which IMO is fantastic and now I have not got a pace box it works very well.

All you seem to do is slag and slate NTL and at the moment I can see no reason at all why you are doing so in this thread. The thread was started by someone asking about an NTL PVR and we have been giving the info that was requested.

Originally Posted by DarthYoda

All you seem to do is slag and slate NTL and at the moment I can see no reason at all why you are doing so in this thread. The thread was started by someone asking about an NTL PVR and we have been giving the info that was requested.

Thats my point. You mention anything on this site about NTL and there products and out pops Neil bang on cue to slag them off. You can set your clocks by him

[handyman]

Originally Posted by Neil

They don't only use Amstrad.

True, but the amstrad box is crap.

[skyblueheroes]

Originally Posted by Neil

So what does that tell you about ntl's forward thinking?

They scrapped a project to launch a PVR several years after Sky launched Sky +.....

How can you really expect me to take this company seriously?

As I have already said, ntl's PVR box/service will be inferior to Sky's.

It's a Mini Adventure.

The end.

Nice. So a Mod ends a thread which is in the middle of some good discussion.