31-08-2006, 08:28
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Re: Is there an NTL PVR?
So let me get this straight.....
ntl launch a PVR some 5 years after Sky & I'm meant to be impressed?
When have ntl ever led the product market?
You may think I'm anti ntl, but when they do something market leading & truly technically impressive I'll say so, until that point.....
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31-08-2006, 08:37
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Re: Is there an NTL PVR?
I think the 10Mbit broadband I've been getting consistently and constantly since I was upgraded is technically impressive - and I'll say so. I ain't no NTL fan boy, but I'll admit that they're ahead of the game when it comes to their broadband service.
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31-08-2006, 08:43
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Re: Is there an NTL PVR?
Are Sky doing VOD yet? (and I don't mean being able to record on Sky+, or programmes repeating on another channel 1 hour later).
Leeds just got activated on VOD, and it looks pretty cool.
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31-08-2006, 08:51
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Re: Is there an NTL PVR?
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well some might not be able to tell the difference, many more will, as many, many people that have taken the time and trouble to to get the current BBC/ITV/etc AVC HD broadcasts and compare the real DVB streams have said so in many places over the net etc.
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popper. your average punter in the street will not care about the compression system used. They probably wouldn't even know about it. They just care that the box works, doesn't cost too much to rent, and can be used to watch and/or record TV.
However, that is all off topic (as is compression). I would like to remind you that the topic is "Is there an NTL PVR?". Not "What compression are NTL planning to use?"
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So let me get this straight.....
ntl launch a PVR some 5 years after Sky & I'm meant to be impressed?
When have ntl ever led the product market?
You may think I'm anti ntl, but when they do something market leading & truly technically impressive I'll say so, until that point.....
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Neil, I never said you should be impressed. I've said all along that there is NO REASON why NTL should not have had a PVR for years.
However, I did make a point that you should try the box before concluding that it is worse than Sky +.
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31-08-2006, 08:55
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Re: Is there an NTL PVR?
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Originally Posted by Stuart C
Neil, I never said you should be impressed. I've said all along that there is NO REASON why NTL should not have had a PVR for years.
However, I did make a point that you should try the box before concluding that it is worse than Sky +.
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That's all good m8, but ntl have never released a DTV product to even rival Sky, let alone out perform them.
As I've said before-ntl are followers not leaders, by the time that this PVR comes out Sky+ will have been out for 5 years, so what are the chances that ntl's box will out perform Sky's? (none IMO)
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31-08-2006, 08:56
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Re: Is there an NTL PVR?
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Are Sky doing VOD yet? (and I don't mean being able to record on Sky+, or programmes repeating on another channel 1 hour later).
Leeds just got activated on VOD, and it looks pretty cool.
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The next gen Sky+ box is supposed to have a ethernet port which will allow VOD over broadband.
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31-08-2006, 09:00
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Re: Is there an NTL PVR?
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The next gen Sky+ box is supposed to have a ethernet port which will allow VOD over broadband.
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So that's a "No", then?
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31-08-2006, 09:00
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Re: Is there an NTL PVR?
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So let me get this straight.....
ntl launch a PVR some 5 years after Sky & I'm meant to be impressed?
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Dunno, lets wait and see if it's impressive......
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31-08-2006, 09:00
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Re: Is there an NTL PVR?
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so what are the chances that ntl's box will out perform Sky's? (none IMO)
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Based on Hardware specs, it outperforms it quite considerably (even the newer Sky+ 160, and possibly the HD box).
NTL not leading the market? Well, they may not be the first, but they are currently rolling out the largest VOD system in the country, and one that DOESN'T need a PC. Can Sky beat (or even match) that?
My point still stands. Wait for the box to become available before you decide if it's crap or not. I am.
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31-08-2006, 09:05
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Re: Is there an NTL PVR?
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Neil, I never said you should be impressed. I've said all along that there is NO REASON why NTL should not have had a PVR for years.
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To bring things back on topic, yes ntl do have a pvr and have had for years. I can think of 2 forum members that will have one on their desk at ntl.
They had a pvr almost ready to go when I was ther 2 years+ back and the project got shelved through lack of funds.
The original planned pvr was of a much higher spec than the current one AFAIK. What ntl are now doing is re planning the pvr launch since they are now intergrated with telewest who already have a launched pvr.
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31-08-2006, 09:07
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Re: Is there an NTL PVR?
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To bring things back on topic, yes ntl do have a pvr and have had for years. I can think of 2 forum members that will have one on their desk at ntl.
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OK, I'll rephrase my post..
" I've said all along that there is NO REASON why NTL should not have had a PVR available to the public for years."
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31-08-2006, 09:08
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Re: Is there an NTL PVR?
Well for a start the NTL box will allow you to record 2 channels and watch a 3rd which the sky box can't do. I haven't tried it of course but I am sure it will out perform the Sky+ box. Just look at the specs of the Telewest TV drive and its cleary better than any of the Sky+ boxes.
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31-08-2006, 09:19
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Re: Is there an NTL PVR?
Of course it should and probably will be better than the current Sky+ boxes, it would be worrying if NTL's PVR was worse than one released 5 years ago.
It will be interesting how it compares to the next gen Sky+ which is supposed to offer things like wireless streaming of multiple programs to multiple TVs.
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31-08-2006, 09:28
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Re: Is there an NTL PVR?
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Originally Posted by handyman
To bring things back on topic, yes ntl do have a pvr and have had for years. I can think of 2 forum members that will have one on their desk at ntl.
They had a pvr almost ready to go when I was ther 2 years+ back and the project got shelved through lack of funds.
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So what does that tell you about ntl's forward thinking?
They scrapped a project to launch a PVR several years after Sky launched Sky +.....
How can you really expect me to take this company seriously?
As I have already said, ntl's PVR box/service will be inferior to Sky's.
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31-08-2006, 09:35
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Re: Is there an NTL PVR?
wow......thats negative!
Have you considered that it might actually work/be better than sky+ ?
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