08-11-2004, 13:28
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by DVS
I have already stated such. Just annoying that I'll need to go through the aggrevation of changing suppliers, having new phone lines installed etc.
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No aggro at all...
1) Ring up BT, ask them to reconnect you. They will handle everything regarding your phone line transfer from ntl (you won't even have to contact ntl about your phone line!  )
2) Ring/write to ntl & cancel your BB service (sorry-not quite 'no aggro after all!  ) & make sure that your cut off date falls just after your DSL activation date so that you are not without BB.
3) Choose a DSL provider that suits your (bandwidth) needs-Plus Net/Pipex/F2S all offer 'cap free' DSL products for example.
3) Wait for cap free surfing to arrive! 
[Edit]-More info here: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=63
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08-11-2004, 13:31
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#542
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by Neil
You are referring to the 'Lite' product from ntl business (whatever that may be?)
I can't actually find anything on the site that explains the difference(s) between the 'Lite' BB service, & the non 'Lite' one...  |
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...highlight=LITE
From what i understand is that its aimed at small businesses that have low usage 
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08-11-2004, 13:33
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#543
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by Scooby
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Nice one Scoob', but I think they should clarify the differences between Lite & non Lite-is there a cap/download guideline limit on Lite but not on Non Lite for example?
Does that make sense? 
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08-11-2004, 13:34
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#544
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Location: Manchester
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by DVS
Looking at the business broadband solutions I must be missing something. 1.5Mbit Business broadband for £34.99? I thought home user 1.5Mbit is 37.99 a month?!?
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wierd isnt it! you arent seeing things though - that's the current structure.
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08-11-2004, 13:34
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#545
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Lancs
Services: 3Mbit STB broadband
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by orangebird
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I use my bandwidth for a lot of uses. Too many to list but a few examples the normal web/email, streaming audio/video, remote admin, video messaging with family/friends, online gaming with VOIP, obtaining game demos (which seem to be averaging ~500Mb these days). The only one that is questionable in legality is the downloading of TV series not yet available in the UK from Usenet. All of the above LEGALLY eat bandwidth.
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And you do all that everyday??
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Most days. The internet is the main relaxation medium for both myself and my sons. Even my partner is spending more and more time online due to the crap thats being broadcast on the TV (how many repeats can you watch!).
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Originally Posted by orangebird
I honestly think that a lot of bb users see a 'cap' and see red, without thinking about exactly how much you can download with said cap, and rationalising that whilst you may use 2,3,4,5 etc gig on one day, you may then barely use anything on another day...  |
Unfortunately I know what my usage is (and I know that I am outside NTL's current guidelines before anyone screams such ). I use a Linux firewall/router with full traffic graphing and thats showing a monthly average for the last three months of ~70GB per month.
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08-11-2004, 13:39
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#546
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Location: Hampshire
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by DVS
Most days. The internet is the main relaxation medium for both myself and my sons. Even my partner is spending more and more time online due to the crap thats being broadcast on the TV (how many repeats can you watch!).
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good point - but how about going out instead? Reading a good book?
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Unfortunately I know what my usage is (and I know that I am outside NTL's current guidelines before anyone screams such ). I use a Linux firewall/router with full traffic graphing and thats showing a monthly average for the last three months of ~70GB per month.
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Please don't take offence, but that is a ridiculous amount for a residential service. 
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08-11-2004, 13:40
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#547
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by Neil
Nice one Scoob', but I think they should clarify the differences between Lite & non Lite-is there a cap/download guideline limit on Lite but not on Non Lite for example?
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yeh you made sense
from what i can make out by looking at their website is the 'lite' service is for small businesses only. with no limits what so ever, what do they class as a small business though? 
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08-11-2004, 13:43
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#548
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
The jump from Cable to Adsl isnt so bad.
I made the jump to Adsl ages ago i pay £39.99i nc vat a month for a 2mb connection without any download restrictions (usage unlimited) 3 month min contract.
Probably a topic for another thread but it would be interesting to see just how much an NTL customer heavy/light user uses in a month & then see what the difference is between the new restrictions (see just how much people will have to cut back/change the way they currently use their NTL connection)
Obvously if you subscribe to an alternative news binary service than NTL or a gamer then your going to be using your alocated restriction alot faster than those customers that dont subscribe to extra services.
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08-11-2004, 13:43
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#549
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
When people go from the 300K service to the 1MB service, is there any way to pay slightly more than before (but not as much for the 2MB service) for extra bandwidth? Or would I just need to ring up NTL to have it turned up to 30GB for about £5 more each month?
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08-11-2004, 13:44
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#550
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Norwich
Age: 43
Services: VM XL TV, Phone, 100mbit Internet.
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by orangebird
good point - but how about going out instead?
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Nothing beats roaming the streets in the evening with the wife and kids in the drizzle. And as for reading, isn't that what the internet is for? Now NTL is limiting it's use for text only websites...
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08-11-2004, 13:45
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#551
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by Hans Gruber
Now NTL is limiting it's use for text only websites...
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Now that is a bit over the top. The 1MB service for ME may be, but not for other people (For me since I use the internet a lot, and I'm on 300K).
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08-11-2004, 13:47
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#552
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Location: Hampshire
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by Hans Gruber
Nothing beats roaming the streets in the evening with the wife and kids in the drizzle.
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I'm sorry, I didn't realise the lack of imagination some members have....
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And as for reading, isn't that what the internet is for? Now NTL is limiting it's use for text only websites...
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No, ntl is not limiting it's use for text only websites, it was MPO. And who the hell reads books online? It's bad for your eyes anyway.
Grow up and reply constructively or not at all.
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08-11-2004, 13:48
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#553
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by Hans Gruber
Nothing beats roaming the streets in the evening with the wife and kids in the drizzle. And as for reading, isn't that what the internet is for? Now NTL is limiting it's use for text only websites...
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rubbish, utter rubbish!!
most users will not be affected by the new guidelines so your above statement is Rubbish!! (IMO )
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08-11-2004, 13:51
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#554
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Norwich
Age: 43
Services: VM XL TV, Phone, 100mbit Internet.
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by Scott
Now that is a bit over the top. The 1MB service for ME may be, but not for other people (For me since I use the internet a lot, and I'm on 300K).
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But surely this is only the start? If bandwidth costs are sky rocketing by this time next year we'll all be sitting on 1gbit connections with a 20mb a month usage limit. People are making out anyone downloading 31gb a month is the spawn of satan, the real issue is NTL's infrastructre. The more customers they attract with these news high speed deals, the less everyone else will be allowed to download.
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08-11-2004, 14:00
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#555
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
Check out Force9 ADSL service. They have a premier and lite user package for thier home users. I feel most ISPs will use the same format. The premier user will pay for example £29.99 for 1mbit connection, unlimited download. The lite user will pay £14.99 for the same connection with a 1 gig per month download limit, but you can increase it up to 10 gig, but the price goes up with each gig.
I feel it's inevitable and soon all ISPs will be placing a download cap of some sort 
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