[Now Official] More ntl speed changes

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by Stop It

Yes, NTL have had their issues, and still do, but this is a huge step in the right direction, Id much rather pay to NTL than the misleading BT (wholesale or retail)

End of the day the staff who take the time to post and help on this website, myself included, don't do it for PR purposes and aren't going to BS you. Although we may not always be able to give you all the facts what we do give is the truth

[daxx]

Originally Posted by Ignition

End of the day the staff who take the time to post and help on this website, myself included, don't do it for PR purposes and aren't going to BS you. Although we may not always be able to give you all the facts what we do give is the truth

Which is something more than can be said for the 'I'll get my call stats up' brigade who seem to delight in thinking that all subs are mushrooms and that 'they', the subs, are going to overwhelmed by the 'highly technical' ["just put the windows CD in the drive and answer yes till it starts doing it and then get back to me when your finished"] advice given to them.

[zaax]

Originally Posted by KraGorn

Er, would it be too chirlish to suggest they actually implement the speed increase they've been promising for the last 4 months before talking about yet more?

I wondered that too.

Of course it does not matter what speed you connect to the Internet it's the speed the all the way to the other end thats counts. Will NTL be increasing the size of it's pearage?

Originally Posted by Ignition

End of the day the staff who take the time to post and help on this website, myself included, don't do it for PR purposes and aren't going to BS you. Although we may not always be able to give you all the facts what we do give is the truth

yes - and big thanks for what guys like you & BBK do for this site - and ultimately, because of that, for me as a customer - there are other equally helpful people, here, but not many with the unique perspective that you seem to share

Originally Posted by Ignition

End of the day the staff who take the time to post and help on this website, myself included, don't do it for PR purposes and aren't going to BS you. Although we may not always be able to give you all the facts what we do give is the truth

The Truth Is Out There....

[Florence]

Originally Posted by Ignition
End of the day the staff who take the time to post and help on this website, myself included, don't do it for PR purposes and aren't going to BS you. Although we may not always be able to give you all the facts what we do give is the truth

we are lucky there are so many of you willing to give the customer some of your free time and help freely given to help most stay online.

Originally Posted by Tuftus

The Truth Is Out There....

very true

[Earwig]

All sounds pretty good to me.

A few things wandering through my mind though......

1. Why did this turn into a capping thread??

2. Why did it then turn into an adsl thread??

Look on the bright side...There seems to be something for everyone if this goes ahead. No matter what NTL do people seem to bite at them and pick fualt with them.

This time I say Hats off to them ! !

I see a lot of people moaning about capping....As far as I have read (I admit I have NOT read every post here) but there is no definate capping going to be enforced here. They may enforce as they are now and just lay down a rough guidline that I am sure many people will stick to and there are also those that will exceed it, I am sure that I will be one of those exceeders. The main point to the capping issue I think is more to scare off people from doing it to often, those that worry about what "Might" happen so choose not to.
I consider myself to be a very heavy user and could gobble that 40GB if I wished to do so with great ease. As I am sure many others here could do the same. I download a good 3-4 full dvd-r every week at current and that is on top of many other things to. And then add to that the online gaming and it soon adds up.
NTL I am sure know that this is what many of it's users are doing and it is becoming far more popular. If they provide these enormous speeds then people will come flocking to them from other I.S.P's
There will be many UNCAPPED services out there to go to and I am sure they know this so if they enforce this cap to much then they will lose cutomers to these services.
Surley if you download over this limit they will not simply cut you off till the beginning of the next month??? Again....they are not that silly are they.....

Oh and there are numerous LEGAL film download sites also where you pay a monthly fee and download whatever films you like. So you could also eat the 40GB this way.

I have also seen no mention of upload speeds increasing?
This is an area that would boost them greatly above the competition as upload speeds we lagg so far behind most of the rest of the world.

And then there is ADSL......yes of course it will catch up with NTL at some point......But then where will NTL have moved on to?? Maybe further on......?

There will always be a battle in this but that is surley great for us all? At last we are beginning to get into the same sort of league as the rest of europe. Now all we need to do is catch up with sweden!!!

Just a few proper questions now for those that may have a little insider knowledge.....

1. Any news on upload increasing?
2. If not can it be done with what they have?
3. If it can be done is it possible this would be another "teaser" when adsl fight back?
4. What is "Roughly" the limit Up and Down that the current network could "Realistically" Cope with at present?
5. IS the 40GB cap including up/down traffic or just down?

[Florence]

Originally Posted by Earwig

1. Any news on upload increasing?
2. If not can it be done with what they have?
3. If it can be done is it possible this would be another "teaser" when adsl fight back?
4. What is "Roughly" the limit Up and Down that the current network could "Realistically" Cope with at present?
5. IS the 40GB cap including up/down traffic or just down?

1. no news at all.
2. not sure to increase upload will in the end be detrimental to the downloads.
3. that is something you will find out only when they decide to let you know.
4. BBKing or Ignition can answer this better than anothger customer.
5. Not heard anything but wouldn't be suprised as ADSL are talking about the limits including upload.

[Earwig]

Originally Posted by Kits

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5. Not heard anything but wouldn't be suprised as ADSL are talking about the limits including upload.

This in my mind would be a pretty bad idea

I am hoping it does not include the upload aswell.

Guess we will just have to wait and see.

Tnx for the answers m8

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by Earwig

This in my mind would be a pretty bad idea

I am hoping it does not include the upload aswell.

Guess we will just have to wait and see.

Tnx for the answers m8

Will almost certainly include upload (my opinion not official ntl one). Can't see any point in giving a usage allowance if it's only going to apply to download.

Please not difference between usage allowance and the current scheme which is purely guidance.

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by zaax

I wondered that too.

Of course it does not matter what speed you connect to the Internet it's the speed the all the way to the other end thats counts. Will NTL be increasing the size of it's pearage?

We have plenty of bandwidth out to the internet, don't worry about that

Originally Posted by Kits

1. no news at all.

You must of missed my post earlier in the thread Kits. Because there is.

I was informed by ntl that they are 'thinking' of keeping the upload speeds the same. Not a definitive answer I know, but they probably have not reached a final decision on upload speeds yet.

[DeadKenny]

Originally Posted by Ignition

BT have just completed an upgrade run, nonetheless 10% of their exchanges are overcapacity at the moment - http://www.samknows.com/broadband/capacity-summary.php

And what percentage of NTL's UBRs are overcapacity?

[DeadKenny]

Originally Posted by Earwig

This in my mind would be a pretty bad idea

I am hoping it does not include the upload aswell.

Guess we will just have to wait and see.

Tnx for the answers m8

ADSL ISPs such as PlusNet cap both down and upstream. The two are combined into a single usage figure.

However PlusNet do a PAYG scheme if you go over the cap, so it's not the end of the world, plus they do uncapped. I have to say though that even with a heavy amount of downloading and running a web server (a fair bit of upstream traffic), I've barely got past 18Gb in a month with PlusNet, so 40Gb with NTL would be plenty.

Those who are using monitoring tools on the PC and have a LAN may find what those tools are telling you could be far higher than your usage as far as the ISP is concerned. The software tools often don't account for your own network overheads and traffic to other PCs on your network. Using NetStat Live, it was telling me I was using something like 50gig, and yet PlusNet say I'm only using 18Gb.

The better tools are things like mrtg/prtg with it set to query the modem so you only see the traffic through the modem.

[BBKing]

And what percentage of NTL's UBRs are overcapacity?

Nowhere near 10%, that's for sure, after the last year's colossal investment.