[Now Official] More ntl speed changes

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by DieDieMyDarling

I may be wrong here, but the more connections you have, the more upload speed you need, so if the whole family are using the computer to listen to music, send images etc, won't it still lag?

Could someone that knows clear this up?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...038#post332038

Indicates that 256 will support a 10Mb download.

But looking at the tasks you propose. Surfing, listening to music, no problem. Sending images. Well this will put more strain on the 256, but should not cause major problems.

[Neil]

Also worth bearing in mind, is that the 'cap'/'guideline' may well include your uploads and downloads....

[etccarmageddon]

Originally Posted by Neil

'cap'/'guideline'

it's been referred to as a "monthly usage allowance" earlier on in this thread - I dont know if that's the new official term.

[madcap]

Originally Posted by Scott

Thanks, downloaded EMSA bandwidth monitor (nice and small) and it's working

Just tried that myself but it's no go for me as it logs data going between computers on my home network as well as internet traffic I'm sat here streaming mp3's from upstairs asnd the meters logged it all

I'm connected to my notebook, but that doesn't use the internet for anything. The only thing that is running on there is BOINC and CPDN, so it only accesses the internet every 20 hours, or when an WU is finished (which is in about 1600 hours).

Since 00:00, I've used 70MB down, and 6MB up. I was downloading something at night, and I havn't been playing many games yet. I wish more providers we're in my area, I can't even get ADSL since I have an NTL phone line

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Scott

I can't even get ADSL since I have an NTL phone line

So get a BT phone line.....

http://www.bt.com/lines/index.jsp?ob...K&obsOID=46375

[NitroNutter]

Monitoring yourself a wan connection in a home network isnt as simple as use MRTG etc. the wan interface needs to be running in some kind of SNMP enviroment. thats either a pre built router with snmp support or a home built linux or win/nat32 based router that is running snmpd.

[Chrysalis]

perhaps this would be better for upload's

1000/128
2000/256
3000/384

if traffic includes upload bandwidth then ntl shouldnt be too worried about upload been saturated. Also mick if you can get answers to these questions would be good thanks.

1 - Will NTL be providing liv monitoring tools to measure bandwidth usage.

2 - If a user hits the limit what are the options available for the user (buy extra 30 gig for £15 ?, cap to 64k download?, cutoff?)

[madcap]

Originally Posted by Neil

So get a BT phone line.....

Thats one thing that puts me off ADSL when i had a BT phone line my internet access was terrible due to a noisy line had engineers out 10 times and still it would come back. I don't know if noise would affect ADSL in the same way as dial up but I'm not going to lay out on the off chance. So until I move house i've got no choice other than NTL who I've always been happy with up to now.

[James_N]

so lets see. i pay to pay £25 extra to get 2mb and a 30gb cap.

meaning i hit my cap twice as fast, as on 750k

but i can get a perm 1mb connection, uncapped, for £22 a month from elsewhere superb.

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

perhaps this would be better for upload's

1000/128
2000/256
3000/384

if traffic includes upload bandwidth then ntl shouldnt be too worried about upload been saturated. Also mick if you can get answers to these questions would be good thanks.

1 - Will NTL be providing liv monitoring tools to measure bandwidth usage.

2 - If a user hits the limit what are the options available for the user (buy extra 30 gig for £15 ?, cap to 64k download?, cutoff?)

Our information is that they haven't made a final decision on upload, but it looks unlikely to change at the moment.

For you questions ;

1. I would say yes - they are spending a fortune on the network, it seems reasonable to assume that this will include monitoring equipment, otherwise "allowances" are meaningless.

2. How about both ? They drop your speed (64k seems unlikely, I would guess at least 150k as this is the sort of minimum speed to still be classed as BB). Then they offer you more bandwidth, at a price, or an upgrade if you aren't on the top speed.

If I were a betting man, I would bet on the above by 2006.

Originally Posted by Neil

So get a BT phone line.....

http://www.bt.com/lines/index.jsp?ob...K&obsOID=46375

Parents line though. They want to stay with NTL.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Paul M

2. How about both ? They drop your speed (64k seems unlikely, I would guess at least 150k as this is the sort of minimum speed to still be classed as BB). Then they offer you more bandwidth, at a price, or an upgrade if you aren't on the top speed.

This is how it works in alot of the 'higher speed' countries that people refer to alot.

I have a friend in Holland who has (& has had for about 2 years) a 3meg down/768k up connection. His bandwidth is capped, & when he reaches that limit an email is automatically sent to him informing him he's reched his limit, & offering him 2 choices....

1) To continue at 3MB down/768 up but pay by the MB/GB for the remaning period of the calender month.

2) His connection reverts to 150k up & down for the remainder of the calender month.

[jtwn]

You already have a 30gb cap.

People on 1.5mb will hit the cap twice as fast, like you will/would, but you don't hear any complaints

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by Neil

This is how it works in alot of the 'higher speed' countries that people refer to alot.

I have a friend in Holland who has (& has had for about 2 years) a 3meg down/768k up connection. His bandwidth is capped, & when he reaches that limit an email is automatically sent to him informing him he's reched his limit, & offering him 2 choices....

1) To continue at 3MB down/768 up but pay by the MB/GB for the remaning period of the calender month.

2) His connection reverts to 150k up & down for the remainder of the calender month.

Shush Neil, everyone knows everyone in Holland, Sweden etc has uncapped 10Mbit both direction connections for 20p a month

However the above seems a good compromise, wouldn't surprise if ntl are looking at the ways other companies enforce their limits and will probably follow whatever they think is the best deal for customers and for the company, a compromise somewhere between the two.