[Now Official] More ntl speed changes

I don't think it's fair on the 300K users who want 1MB. Only 5GB of bandwidth per month? Forget that, I'm sticking with 300K

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by Scott

I don't think it's fair on the 300K users who want 1MB. Only 5GB of bandwidth per month? Forget that, I'm sticking with 300K

I would imagine that the AUP will have to be re-written to take account of these new speeds and their allowances. This will probably result in the present guidelines being withdrawn and replaced with something along the lines of the new allowances. We will have to wait and see.

[DieDieMyDarling]

I personally don't use my connection as much as i used to, i rarely go over the cap now, i'm not a heavy user anymore.

To ask YOU a question though.. if it's not right for people to utilize a 3mb connection, why the hell is it being offered at all? So people can access the skynews website in 0.4 seconds, rather than 0.8 seconds?

I just don't understand why Ntl would offer a 3mb service and put a 40GB cap on it. Even 3mb access in general is faulted. There aren't many P2P networks that will allow you to download at 370k/sec while only uploading at 25k/sec. A lot of websites don't support that kind of speed on large downloads. Most IRC rooms for downloading are limited too, and you'll find it quite difficult to find a room that will allow you to download at that speed, without first being a sharer yourself, with good upload speeds. You won't get that speed downloading files off many people on msn, yahoo chat, etc, as it's dependent on the other users upload speed.
So you're probably left with some websites, newsgroups (which never work on ntl anyway) and possibly some FTP servers.

It really is a case of buying a car that does 180mph, because it looks good, sounds good and makes you feel better. Then driving at 70mph to stay within the law.

Is anyone planning on using the 3mb service? What are your thoughts on it? Why are you getting it, and what will you use it for?

[cookie_365]

Originally Posted by Nor

Aha yes, but I wasn't complaining about you complaining about others complaining. I was merely commenting on the comedy of complaining about complaining

Ah, indeed yes. I'd therefore like to withdraw my complaint, in which I complained about peoply complaining about me complaining about people complaining, and instead complain about myself for not properly reading the message which commented on the comedy of complaining about complaining.

I hope that this clarifies matters ....

[slowcoach]

Just a thought:

If NTL are able to end the free and half price months for new users, due to the more competitively priced services being offered, then new users will be, on average, about £25 worse off albeit getting more overall. If this turns out to be the case then everyone will have paid the £25, directly or indirectly, get my gist.


By the way, just checked..... still on 1.5MB/S upgrade hasn't happend yet

[IanGuy]

I can be sure I will either stay on 300k (1gb a day) or upgrade to 2mb (30gb a month). 5gb is simply not enough, I will admit some months I will be under, but some months I will go considerably over, depends if I want to download a demo or something. Good marketing technique from NTL if you ask me, getting people to upgrade from 300k to 2mb, just because it's only £7 extra a month for the same cap as 300k but 6 and 2/3 faster? NTL have my vote for 2mb i think

[Florence]

Originally Posted by DieDieMyDarling

It really is a case of buying a car that does 180mph, because it looks good, sounds good and makes you feel better. Then driving at 70mph to stay within the law.

Well if you buy this car and go to its max on public roads hope you have a good bank balanace and a good chauffer for when you can't drive it anymore.

Originally Posted by DieDieMyDarling

Is anyone planning on using the 3mb service?

Considering using it yes not because I want 3mb just it seems a good bargain.

Originally Posted by DieDieMyDarling

What are your thoughts on it?

Looking at what has been put forward it almost looks like NTL have taken parts from everyones demands when they first introduced the 1 gig guidelines...

Originally Posted by DieDieMyDarling

Why are you getting it, and what will you use it for?

To give my family a quick internet service allowing them to listen to music send images or even talk over IP without lagging the other users on the network.
Hobbies, course work, webdesign, emails and keeping in touch with family abroad......

Originally Posted by Paul M

Yeah, it's a real joke having such a fast service for a one off £25 payment - I for one will certainly be laughing (at all the slow ADSL ers )


Funny, I'm sure the service will be 24 x 7, just like my 1.5mbps is.

You seem to be under the delusion that eveyone who wants the 3mbps service just wants to max their connection out downloading half the internet. Well guess what, that's not true, and it seems to me that these caps are there to prevent exactly that - which as far as I'm concerned is brilliant - I hope all the moaning bandwidth hoggers go elsewhere, and leave the rest of us to our nice fast service.

[Bifta]

3 meg eh? if by the time my ADSL contract runs out in 10 months time there's no option for me to get 3+ meg DSL, I'll get that 'everso professional' NTL installation engineer round with his big drill to ruin my drive yet again!

[Prof-x]

Originally Posted by DieDieMyDarling

I just don't understand why Ntl would offer a 3mb service and put a 40GB cap on it. Even 3mb access in general is faulted. There aren't many P2P networks that will allow you to download at 370k/sec while only uploading at 25k/sec.

Your right most singular web hosts give out about 250 - 300 Kbits/Sec but i easily get 6-7Mbits/Sec on popular torrents at work.


Overall im amazed this has happened and cant wait for my 2Mbit now. Outstanding move ntl. 1Mbit is very affordable for £18 5gig cap is stingy but theres a lot of people who want instant surfing who dont download distro's/games/media and wont go over that cap i.e my parents

2Mbit and a 30gig cap is fair play. If you download more than a gig consequtivly over 3 days then you deserve to be banned because your blatently leeching and performing illegal activities or just pay extra for the 40gig bandwidth liberties.

Providing ntl have p2p cache in place and the proxies are working well with QOS and auto balacning scripts on the UBR i dont see why the network would suffer from this.

Roll on next year!!

I have no objection to paying the £25 to upgrade as this is quite a good deal / opportunity... however.

Can the network cope with it?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=19538

Also, re all the discussion re the caps, what the heck is everyone downloading????

Is my 120GB hard drive not going to be big enough???

;-)

[tomjleeds]

Originally Posted by DieDieMyDarling

There aren't many P2P networks that will allow you to download at 370k/sec while only uploading at 25k/sec.

What P2P networks have you heard of?! Only eDonkey and BitTorrent really do much to check you're not leeching. And yes, I do know what I'm on about.

[OldGeezer]

I'm currently on 750K/128K and I guess I will fork out £25 for 2M/128K, but I'd much rather have 1M/256K for my money.

[slowcoach]

Originally Posted by Tuftus

Is my 120GB hard drive not going to be big enough???

;-)

It will be perfect, just delete the files once they are downloaded, you can never find them later on your disk anyway.

[zovat]

Originally Posted by Bifta

3 meg eh? if by the time my ADSL contract runs out in 10 months time there's no option for me to get 3+ meg DSL, I'll get that 'everso professional' NTL installation engineer round with his big drill to ruin my drive yet again!

And you will be able to rub it into the faces of those who cannot get NTL

(I told my Boss that this was happening and he called me a jammy B%$^$%^ - and he is right, I actually feel that I am lucky to live in an NTL broadband area...)

ok - enough from me - I seem to be turning pro-NTL - how can that be... could this mean they are doing what we want ?