[Now Official] More ntl speed changes

[Nikko]

Its a wonderful democracy in which we live.

I have just read through this, and I have been amazed by some of the snivelling, whining, cheap, ungrateful, narrow, and unjustifiably negative viewpoints that some users seem to have contrived to aspire to.

However, for the most part the majority seem to be happy with a stonking speed upgrade that may incur a reasonable one-off admin fee to instigate, and, it seems to me, answers all of the calls for more speed/better value that have been made in recent history.

A quick summary of the Poll indicates that the large majority of resondents presently represented, are happy to suck in the extra speed and remain at their current subscribed service level.

Originally Posted by wakey

As for if these will be proper caps I have to say the fact they are mentioned in the press releases would suggest that they will be. Why make it such an issue otherwise. Only other reason could be as others have said they want to scare people into not downgrading in which case they wont clarify their position and will leave us to all take a risk

As things stand, ntl cannot really impose caps because they have no ability to mass monitor usage in such a way that you, the user, can be kept informed as well. But I doubt this situation will last.

They are spending millions on upgrading the networks for these new speeds, and other services, and my bet is that this new equipment will be able to monitor you usage much better, and keep you informed of it.

Maybe not straight away, but I think it will come - and when it does, I suspect you will see a big change in attitude - and they will start to take action against you if you exceed your limit, either by cutting you off, or reducing your speed, or maybe charging you for the extra usage.

btw - I haven't seen this mentioned, but I am led to believe that the caps for these new speeds are 'total traffic', i.e. upload and download.

[ray_uk]

USAGE ALLOWANCE , well I wasnt expecting something for nothing, But then again lets hope that this go's the same way as which telephone deregulation has by brining in ever decreasing prices due to competition, thats what's really needed for broadband, competition.

Remember back when NTL 1st introduced the 1mb service at £49.99 sure that sounded good at the time but when you consider the sort of speeds available elsewhere at the time for example in Japan, North America and the Scandanavian and Benelux area's 10mb, 100mb or dedicated fibre optic home use connections for around the $30.00 a month. Yeah we were getting a real good deal .

Well in retrospect "to me it seems" that they'll try to make anything fly or get away with what ever they can, just enough, Dont get me wrong its not that im complaining or even saying that its bad, on the contrary id be more then willing to pay for what I use since its the fair thing but regaurdless were still not getting a fair deal. Not when you look around and see whats available elsewhere.

P.S. this isnt a attack on anybody, Just my Opinion.

[Nor]

The usage restriction could be for upload & download then ? That would be positively terrible.

For all those people complaining about others complaining, spot the joke there, do you honestly believe NTL are gonna give so much without taking something ?

[slowcoach]

Come the New Year BT are charging £2 per Gig for going over the limit, this seems a more sensible approach rather than cutting people off, the Telco's are only in it for the money after all.

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Be ready for the upgrade, get that Cable Modem water cooled.

The countdown has started and until the upgrades start this forum is going to be full of speculation, just the thing to pass these dark evenings away.

Happy days are here again!

ntl: #1

[Richard M]

I need to look into moving to an NTL-cabled area...or I could wait to see how the DSL providers respond.

Is the cap montly? If so I think I may be staying on my 300K with my 1GB per day

Being new to Broadband at 300k, I can only say the news from NTL is wonderful. At last the company seems to be able to offer an exciting product, the upgrade to 1 meg is very welcome and will clearly put NTL services in the lead. Having endured dial up at 54 kbps for so long believe me 300k is a dream and 1 meg would be a blessing. Caps don't bother me but certainly if people are being selfish in using up bandwidth at other customers expense then by all means cap them.

Bring it on NTL, well done NTL wise move.

[etccarmageddon]

now we pay £25 a month for 700k or £38 a month for 1.5m - so you're getting 100% extra speed for an extra £13.

with these new speeds you pay £25 for 2mb or £38 for 3mb - so you'll only get 50% extra speed for you an extra £13!

and the price difference between the 1mb and the 2mb product will be £7 but the price difference between 2mb and 3mb is £13!

so the best value option with the new speeds will be the £25 version.

[NitroNutter]

And still with a 1GB a day cap on the 3Mbit and no way to monitor a family household usage ? (Unless you buy a very expensive snmp router or build your own).

If so its not tempting me to return to a new 12 month contract with NTL even if it was just for the BB. Sorry but 1 GB a day on those speeds is just ludicrous with todays internet content, in a multi pc enviroment, that NTL themselves promoted.

[themelon]

Its still 30gb a month at 2mb speeds which is ample for me.........It means I can get what I need quicker at no extra cost.........all good

I was once worried I exceeded the cap but on monitoring.

I do go over 1gb some days by quite a bit, but other days im out at the football etc or cant be arsed with the Internet I hardly use anything.

So It probably evens out to be quite a bit less than 30gb in a month I go over on about 10 days, 1Gb of data in a day is still quite a bit.

Unless you are running a fileshare empire!

ntl did plan to introduce 'Metered Broadband' next year according to a timescale on a presentation for investor relations. So this and new metered products may feature this when the cap is exceeded.

At the end of the day you have to make some compromises, either let all the fileshare bandwidth hogs come on and max their connections really screwing the network or impose a cap ample for the average user and bankrupt the bandwidth hogs with extra charges.

Either way
1mb for £17.99

2mb for £24.99

£37 for 3mb

all good good for the UK

Wonder if it wakes BT up, there is noway that they can possibly ever continue to sell a pishy 1GB capped 512k service for £19.99.

[Rone]

Is there never going to be a "pay more" d\load as much as you like scheme?
I assume business lines can, [?] its a shame theres nothing a little more flexible.
Allready the great new speed increases are over shadowed by caps and usage. Yes i know nearly every other provider has them, but most are looking to those that dont, for the time being anyway.

[ray_uk]

I might be willing to pay about 60 to 70 a month for a 2 or 3 mb unlimited download.

[PC_Arcade]

I've got to admit I'm impressed with NTL for the first time in years with this announcement, I'm not bothered about a one off £25 charge, and I will go from 1.5 Mb to 3Mb the minute it's available.

I just hope that UK ISP's (including NTL) re-think this whole ludicrous "cap" nonsense.
Luckily NTL (for them) don't seem to actively enforce it, the second they do I will drop all my services (currently phone, toptier BB and top tier Cable TV) and switch to Bulldog, AOL or one of the MANY other ISPs that have no down/upload limits.

[themelon]

The majority want it cheap. ntl are aiming for the mass market who want faster speeds cheaper, the majority of the UK only browse and download occassional mp3s...........the usage pattern may change in the future. We are a nation of browsers this is the reason why 300k service and even capped 512k services are so popular because this is what the majority use and need and is perfectly sufficient.

ntl are pushing things up a level which may lead to different usage patterns in the UK.

I personally wouldnt ever consider paying more than £25 for any form of Broadband