[Merged] ITV3.

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Originally Posted by Web-Junkie

my mother doesn't understand why she can't watch Plus anymore unless we go digital and why she's still paying for a degraded service

You won't be able to get Plus even if you do go digital - it has ended for everyone - analogue, digital, cable, satellite, Sky, ntl, Telewest, whatever - it's gone. What has launched is ITV3, which is a different channel (although it may be showing some of the same shows on occasion).

[Web-Junkie]

OK, I seem to have started a bit of a reaction here so let's clear it up before it degenerates into something else.

I have anologue, due to the fact 2 STB's on analogue are cheaper than 2 Digital STB's and it was what my father budgeted for when considering all the other bills he had to pay. Granada Plus is no more as stated, and ITV3 is the 'new Plus' as it were with all the programming that used to be on the Plus channel.

I accept analogue is a limited service and digital is the 'daddy', it's just disappointing that NTL can't negotiate a deal for their still loyal analogue customers in light of ITV3, loyalty is still a key factor for NTL isn't it irrespective if they are analogue or digital customers?

If NTL's hands are tied then it's obviously not NTL's fault, and if it's not technically possible to give ITV3 to analogue customers then I hold my hands up and leave it at that, but as a paying customer I'm at least entitled to voice my concerns for the analogue customer.

[JediMaster]

Originally Posted by garyparson
Can anyone enlighten me as to why people who have the option of digital are still on analogue? I'm guessing it's nothing to do with cost as you wouldn't have cable in the first place.

I have Analouge because I did try Digital (but after 2 months of NT-Hell I was on the phone every day & getting the Tech Dept out weekly. The signal was CREPE, E4 was cutting up & pixelating. It would Freeze like C5 for 30mins) so I phoned "X-Ray" like the BBC show Watchdog & got NTL on it.

Then they offered me my OLD Analouge TV back & a huge discount.

NEVER will I return to NTL Digital.. (Freeview or Sky here I come if NTL stop Analouge)

With Analouge TV (NTL) you can Record 1 Channel 7 watch another (all for £3.50 PCM) so for me to get that Service on NTL it would cost 2x £10 Digital TV...

[andrew_wallasey]

I cant understand why they have stopped the Plus channel. Proper ********s who wanted ****in ITV3 anyway???? At least Plus had some decent stuff on.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey

I cant understand why they have stopped the Plus channel. Proper ********s who wanted ****in ITV3 anyway???? At least Plus had some decent stuff on.

Blame $ky for that one.

[andrew.m02]

Originally Posted by DarthYoda

Blame $ky for that one.

why blame $ky

[Neil]

Originally Posted by DarthYoda

Blame $ky for that one.

What on earth has it got to do with Sky?

[Graham F]

Originally Posted by Neil

What on earth has it got to do with Sky?

at a guess i think he means that cos sky sold their stake in Gplus to itv to make way for ITV3 on sky and thus taken Gplus off air!

[andrew.m02]

Originally Posted by Scooby

at a guess i think he means that cos sky sold their stake in Gplus to itv to make way for ITV3 on sky and thus taken Gplus off air!

as sky sold what shares they had in G+ to ITV. wouldnt that mean ITV killed off G+?

[Stephen]

$ky and ITV are to blame really.

[andrew_wallasey]

I just think it's a **** pour set of events and im really ****ed off about it. ITV are useless!

[Nor]

My dad likes all the old stuff that was on G+ and was well gutted when it got dropped. He isn't too impressed with itv3, although personally its nice to see the re-runs of la law.

[Web-Junkie]

So to get ITV3 on digital is going to cost me extra!

I pay £37.50 for analogue, that includes 1 extra STB @ £7, £13.50 for the Family Pack and £17 for the Sports Pack. Compared to digital, it would cost us £33 for the Family Pack and Sports, and and an extra £15 for another STB, total of £48. Sky digital would cost £43 for their Family Pack, Sports and Multiroom.

Oh, and we HAVE to have NTL's phone service if we want digital so that's another £9.50 if you don't already have a phone (I do have an NTL phoneline fortunately). Sky don't specifically mention you HAVE to have a phone, they only state you need to plug the box into a land based phone line to receive the interactive bits, so If I don't have a phone I don't get the interactive? no great loss there then!

So NTL digital is going to cost me £10.50 more per month and Sky digital £5.50, guess which one we are now considering! The only drawback is Sky only warrant the box for 1 year (NTL rent you the box) and optionally want you to pay an extra £69 per year per box for an extended warranty

Sky seems a better option as I keep hearing about poor NTL digital picture, freezes and pixelation from friends and this forum, but no one I know who has Sky has had problems.

Please don't jump down my throat if I've got something wrong or mis-quoted anything, I compared NTL and Sky and that's more or less how I understand it.

All this just to highlight what an anolgue customer (me) must pay to get ITV3!! (barring Freeview).

[Graham F]

the only draw back with sky multiroom is that you all have to watch the same channel AFAIK

[Nor]

"Sky Multiroom lets you watch different Sky channels in different rooms at the same time. You simply need a Multiroom subscription and an extra Sky box or a Sky+ box, to enjoy the same choice of channels on another TV"