03-11-2004, 15:35
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by Nor
What benefit is there in having download speed which is twice as fast if you can only download the same amount mate. Its like racing in between red traffic lights.
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the same reason why people buy a car capable for doing 180mph when the limit is 70mph surely?!?!
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03-11-2004, 15:36
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
Yep, same ere. Let me know when they want it and i'll pay it!
Great news!
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03-11-2004, 15:37
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Not that impressed with the news. I currently have 750k and a 1gb a day cap. Thats fine for me, I go over it now and then but overall I'm fine.
When these changes come into force, will I still have a 1gb a day cap ? or will I jump to the 5gb a month cap. Cos 5gb a month really isn't very much.
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I'm impressed - I think it's a nice kick up ADSL's backside - it should drive down the wholesale costs of ADSL and/or increase the bandwidth BT offers via ADSL.
I suspect it wont be long before bandwidth is irrelevant as download rates increase to the max needed by the average punter - until we start getting applications which need all this bandwidth such as downloadable film rentals.
the £25 charge is just a silly distraction from the main headline which is that broadband has just taken another major step forward.
as for the 30gb/40gb limits - isnt that similar to the current 1gb guideline?
probably enough for most people for the current internet usage.
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03-11-2004, 15:40
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
Brilliant news this. Utterly fantastic. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.
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03-11-2004, 15:43
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Brilliant news this. Utterly fantastic. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong.
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No they aren't they just have a different opinion to you, thats the beauty of living in this country people are allowed to disagree!!
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03-11-2004, 15:43
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
Doesn't it mean that as a 750k user I have to pay £25 unless I want to be restricted to 5gb a month ? I'm not really a power user and don't mind having a slowish speed. I just don't want to be constantly looking at my download limit and if its 5gb a month I'm gonna be doing that.
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03-11-2004, 15:45
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by Nor
Doesn't it mean that as a 750k user I have to pay £25 unless I want to be restricted to 5gb a month ? I'm not really a power user and don't mind having a slowish speed. I just don't want to be constantly looking at my download limit and if its 5gb a month I'm gonna be doing that.
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Maybe I'm missing something - but where does the 5Gb cap come from ? 
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03-11-2004, 15:47
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
Did I miss something - where are these limits officially stated ?
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03-11-2004, 15:49
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Did I miss something - where are these limits officially stated ?
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Yep, as far as the internal announcement is concerned, that's the limits being quoted 
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03-11-2004, 15:49
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
I'm just reading it off the news page here
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03-11-2004, 15:53
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
Methinks that the £25 charge has more to do with introducing the cap.
Give everyone a free speed upgrade but introduce a cap and peeps will moan like hell.
Let them pay to opt in to a deal that includes a cap and they won't - (as much).
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03-11-2004, 15:59
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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fair enough...
Are these in line with the current "caps" ?
Certainly 30-40Gb per month does not seem to be particularly low.
without getting into the whole "cap/no cap" discussion, I play CS:Source, and work over VPN quite a lot from home, and the speed difference from 1-1.5M was noticeable, so from 1.5-3M would be even more so.
I don't spend a large amount of time downloading (probably a couple of Linux ISOs a fortnight) and have never hit the cap - to me this is a no brainer...
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03-11-2004, 15:59
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
I wonder if this speed increase will also apply to AOL users without a cap ?
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03-11-2004, 16:02
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
They are in line with the current guidelines which are 1gb a day, except for people who 1mb (which is why I have the vague notion if I stay on a tariff below 1mb I'll be subject to the same usage restriction) which is 5gb a month. Thats pretty low when you think about if you are downloading hl2 source and the games.
I think what atlis said may be on the money though. If people are actually paying and changing their broadband plans with a cap set in place, its alot more enforceable than when NTL just decided unilaterally to impose 'guidelines'
I hope these caps are guidelines but they do seem rather prominent.
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03-11-2004, 16:03
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by Kevin
I wonder if this speed increase will also apply to AOL users without a cap ?
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Not from any announcement ntl make. That would have to come from AOL, no-one else.
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