[Merged] 2004 US Presidential Election
29-10-2004, 09:53
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Re: Surprise surprise
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Oohhh, I get it - just like the last election then.... 
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Exactly, the american elections arnt about the popular vote, or even who actually won the election. As long as you can kkick blacks off the voting record, kick up enough fuss so the surpreme court will decice that the president will be undermined if the re-count countines they will stop it (of course the president would have been undermined, he wouldnt have won the election)
and thats the american way........
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29-10-2004, 09:58
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Re: Surprise surprise
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Originally Posted by Damien
Exactly, the american elections arnt about the popular vote, or even who actually won the election. As long as you can kkick blacks off the voting record, kick up enough fuss so the surpreme court will decice that the president will be undermined if the re-count countines they will stop it (of course the president would have been undermined, he wouldnt have won the election)
and thats the american way........
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So, do you actually have to kick up a fuss yourself, or can you get your dad to tell his mate in the Supreme Court to stop the recount?
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29-10-2004, 10:00
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Re: Surprise surprise
Depends how drunk you are at the time
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29-10-2004, 12:10
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Re: Surprise surprise
ahh the anti bush feelings are strong in this thread -
bush is a good lad so shhh and go watch your Moore films again as there is no hope for you
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29-10-2004, 12:15
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Re: Surprise surprise
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Originally Posted by SOSAGES
ahh the anti bush feelings are strong in this thread -
bush is a good lad so shhh and go watch your Moore films again as there is no hope for you 
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Michael Moore is a lying ****** and I wouldn't entertain any of his films or books, but Bush is an ignorant, dangerous ****** who (along with his lapdog Blair) is costing this country billions of pounds thanks to his warmongering. Bring back Clinton.
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29-10-2004, 12:16
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Re: Surprise surprise
come on guys ... keep this calm ...
[Admin Insert(Mick): And Can we please also stop bypassing the swear filter. Thanks.]
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29-10-2004, 12:19
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Re: Surprise surprise
And let's not forget who it is who's sitting in the Governor's Mansion in Florida ... surely it can't be Jeb Bush, brother of the president?
Why is it that the Bush family reminds me of The Dukes of Hazzard?
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29-10-2004, 12:24
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Re: Surprise surprise
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And let's not forget who it is who's sitting in the Governor's Mansion in Florida ... surely it can't be Jeb Bush, brother of the president?
Why is it that the Bush family reminds me of The Dukes of Hazzard?
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Because they are all in-bred banjo twangers?  No matter who gets voted in there will always be someone that takes legal action declaring the vote to be improper and there will always be someone in the whitehouse who cannot make his own decisions and prove himself to be whiter than white and perfect in every way
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29-10-2004, 12:34
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there was a very intresting item on newsnight the other night abt this very subject!!
seems crazy....they should have international monitors in the state!!
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29-10-2004, 12:40
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There should be UN monitors across the whole country. Considering the US is supposed to be the Land of the Free and the very model of democracy, the US Presidential election system is bizarre ... even the Labour Party has been doing away with electoral colleges as a way of voting for things.
How can it be that a State's citizens vote 51-49 for one candidate, but that state's entire alloaction of electoral college votes go to one candidate? How can it be that when an Elector of a particular state gets to the College vote, he is under no obligation to vote for the candidate the citizens of his State chose, but can exercise his vote any way he likes? (According to a report on R4 Today this morning, one such Elector is threatening to vote Kerry at the Electoral College meeting, regardless of whether or not Kerry wins in his state).
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29-10-2004, 12:41
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Re: Surprise surprise
Hey, Mike Moore is funny, he may twist things but he makes GOOOOD movies
oh yeah!
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29-10-2004, 12:44
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Re: Surprise surprise
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There should be UN monitors across the whole country. Considering the US is supposed to be the Land of the Free and the very model of democracy, the US Presidential election system is bizarre ... even the Labour Party has been doing away with electoral colleges as a way of voting for things.
How can it be that a State's citizens vote 51-49 for one candidate, but that state's entire alloaction of electoral college votes go to one candidate? How can it be that when an Elector of a particular state gets to the College vote, he is under no obligation to vote for the candidate the citizens of his State chose, but can exercise his vote any way he likes? (According to a report on R4 Today this morning, one such Elector is threatening to vote Kerry at the Electoral College meeting, regardless of whether or not Kerry wins in his state).
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Some (albeit few, and only the small ones) split up there electoral votes to represent the result of that state rather than all of them going to one candidate
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29-10-2004, 15:37
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Re: Surprise surprise
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Why is it that the Bush family reminds me of The Dukes of Hazzard?
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Which one's Daisy?!
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29-10-2004, 16:03
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Re: Surprise surprise
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Originally Posted by Bifta
Michael Moore is a lying ****** and I wouldn't entertain any of his films or books, but Bush is an ignorant, dangerous ****** who (along with his lapdog Blair) is costing this country billions of pounds thanks to his warmongering. Bring back Clinton.
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How would you know if Moore is a liar if you don't entertain his books or movies? In terms of truth bending, Moore does no more than what most media does every day but at least he is much more entertaining.
Yep, bring back Clinton. He was one really spunky president.
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29-10-2004, 16:06
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Re: Surprise surprise
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Originally Posted by Damien
Exactly, the american elections arnt about the popular vote, or even who actually won the election. As long as you can kick blacks off the voting record, kick up enough fuss so the surpreme court will decice that the president will be undermined if the re-count countines they will stop it (of course the president would have been undermined, he wouldnt have won the election)
and thats the american way........
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It might be simpler just to sack Jeb Bush as Governor of Florida. After all, one election fiasco is bad enough, two is grounds for dismissal.
Interesting too that once again Florida may well be the state deciding who becomes president.
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