DVLA mad Red Tape

[Florence]

Originally Posted by gary_580

Kits, Surely if your car is insured and has a valid MOT (if it needs one) then your ok to drive whilst the investringate the Tax issue. Its not as if your not willing to pay or that the car is dangerous or not insured.

I'd call the local police station an ask them if you can drive without tax until its sorted by the DVLA. At the end of the day its not a problem caused by you.

Another point is



sounds like your not responsible for taxing it

My luck I would get hte car confiscated and I can't afford to lose it wonder if I can go long term sick until it can be taxed or my working day will suddenly increase from 8.30 to 5pm to 7.45 to 5.40 and I still have to do all the household chores afterwards.

[carlingman]

Kits,

As you taxed it the last time with green slip then surely you would be on their system as the registered keeper ?????

If you are already registered as the vehicle keeper on the DVLA computer and there are no changes to your personal or vehicle details, you may apply for a duplicate by calling 0870 240 0010 using a debit/credit card for payment.

Also as the previous owner has failed to notify them then the charge is waived.

Surely the turn around time on that has got to better than waiting for the V62 to be completed and returned.

Information taken from here

If not maybe worth asking them for alternative as you are willing to pay etc. and the car is Insured and MOT.

[Florence]

I taxed it last time on the green slip but apparently that doesn't throw up any flags saying the car has changed they wait until the log book arrives from the old keeper.

So my cheque was good enough last time and it was accepted with my address on the form I filled in but the DVLA still have the old Keepers name there and they are digging in their heels I cannot use it while its sorted out and I can't tax it until its sorted out. the new DVLA rules are the old method was better.

Edited to add I was on the phone for 30 mins as far as they are concerned I am not the registered keeper so its 4 to 6 weeks....

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Kits

I taxed it last time on the green slip but apparently that doesn't throw up any flags saying the car has changed they wait until the log book arrives from the old keeper.

So my cheque was good enough last time and it was accepted with my address on the form I filled in but the DVLA still have the old Keepers name there and they are digging in their heels I cannot use it while its sorted out and I can't tax it until its sorted out. the new DVLA rules are the old method was better.

Edited to add I was on the phone for 30 mins as far as they are concerned I am not the registered keeper so its 4 to 6 weeks....

Then it's not your responsibility to tax it. Check with your insurer what this does to your insurance policy, the car has an MOT so it roadworthy.
You have made best efforts to tax it.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

Then it's not your responsibility to tax it. Check with your insurer what this does to your insurance policy, the car has an MOT so it roadworthy.
You have made best efforts to tax it.

I wonder if the previous owner has declared it SORN ! just a thought.

If not being the keeper (because he hasn't informed them otherwise) he is liable to a fine for the untaxed vehicle being on the highway.

I know the last thing you want is the car to be confiscated, but surely the person should be fined. They make enough threats about being fined if you dont provide the correct information.

I guess they must be idle threats when it comes to taking action!

Originally Posted by SMHarman

Then it's not your responsibility to tax it. Check with your insurer what this does to your insurance policy, the car has an MOT so it roadworthy.
You have made best efforts to tax it.

exactly the point i made earlier in the thread after speaking to a friend who works for the DVLA. However the advice was ignored and another "Yes But" was thrown back in.

[zoombini]

Just make sure that you get written details of as many dealing with this as possible. Even tape phone calls.
So that if/when you get in trouble for it that you have enough evidence to prove that you have been trying to tax it & that it was the DVLA that prevented it despite your best efforts to do so.

Also, when the tax runs out, if you do not use it then don't forget to do a SORN declaration irrespective of the logbook.

Sometinmes these rules make an ass of common sense.

[Florence]

The point is I can't do a SORN as I am not the registered keeper and only the registered keeper can do that.

I am actuallly thinking of seeing if anyone with a guarage will lock it inside for safety so its completely out of site. The thing is this is going to make my life hell I have two partime jobs with only 45mins from one stopping and the other starting. Public transport is a joke and of no use to get to work I have to go away from work first to catch another coming back to work. There is no straight through bus anymore. so one bus ride of 20 mins is now two bus rides of 55 mins.

[darren]

I had the same problem when I bought my car, the previous owner never sent back the green form. He did, however, give me the tax renewal form as it was about to expire when I bought it, which the post office were happy with.
After a few months I realised no log book had arrived and so I spoke to the DVLA, who basically said "tough paid the £19".

The worst of it is that I know the previous owner, which makes it even more annoying.

This new rule is stupid and I can see in this thread that others have had problems with it, they make it ridiculously difficult to own a car legally.

The point is that the new process is there to stop people dumping cars. However if someone new is claiming ownership of a car by trying to tax it then logically you would expect the DVLA to transfer ownership. If you had stolen the car i wouldnt expect yuo would bother taxing it!

[bob_builder]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

Then it's not your responsibility to tax it. Check with your insurer what this does to your insurance policy, the car has an MOT so it roadworthy.
You have made best efforts to tax it.

Good point, most car insurance terms state that you must be the legal owner of the car or the spouse of the owner. So technically, Kits has been illegally driving the car for the last six months so I am sure a few more will not make much difference.

Can't you put "Tax in Post" on your windsceen like DelBoy?

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by bob_builder

Good point, most car insurance terms state that you must be the legal owner of the car or the spouse of the owner. So technically, Kits has been illegally driving the car for the last six months so I am sure a few more will not make much difference.

Can't you put "Tax in Post" on your windsceen like DelBoy?

The V5 has nothing to do with legal ownership or entitlement, its as it says registered keeper.

Most insurance policies state you must be the "owner or registered keeper"

If you buy the car on finance you don't own it anyway, but the V5 is still in your name not the finance companies.

[etccarmageddon]

correct - DVLA info does not relate to ownership. Kitts will have a receipt or other proof or the fact that she possesses it!

I'd suggest Kitts also explores making an official complaint about the DVLA and the way they have handled this. Usually this kind of kick up the backside gets results and also complain to your local MP - they're paid enough!

start writing letters cos you are the victim.

[KingPhoenix]

Originally Posted by gary_580

Kits, Surely if your car is insured and has a valid MOT (if it needs one) then your ok to drive whilst the investringate the Tax issue. Its not as if your not willing to pay or that the car is dangerous or not insured.

I'd call the local police station an ask them if you can drive without tax until its sorted by the DVLA. At the end of the day its not a problem caused by you.

Another point is



sounds like your not responsible for taxing it

I could be wrong, but im sure my insurance policy states that my insurance is only valid whilst my car is MOT'd and TAXed

[Florence]

Originally Posted by KingPhoenix

I could be wrong, but im sure my insurance policy states that my insurance is only valid whilst my car is MOT'd and TAXed

True KingPhoenix.. but on a better note after talks with the AA and the local police I am on my way to the DVLA Manchester where I have a firm promise if I have all documentation including the out of date greenslip they will tax the car for me. I am off now to give it a try if this works I will have to say Manchester DVLA rocks.
Will post back when I return wish me luck.....