19-10-2004, 01:02
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
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good link 
I've recently given up smoking, and I found this post by Incognitas to be the most parallel to my mood
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...&postcount=119
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19-10-2004, 01:11
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#122
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Originally Posted by Incognitas
Nah! I'm staying home and having a quiet drink and discussing how to put the world to rights in my living room with you lot. |
If you go to the sort of bars that have PC's then you can do both
<edit> and the sooner they ban smoking in pubs the better, I stank on Saturday after spending a night in my mums local 
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19-10-2004, 01:13
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#123
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Originally Posted by dellwear
If you go to the sort of bars that have PC's then you can do both
<edit> and the sooner they ban smoking in pubs the better, I stank of Saturday after spending a night in my mums local |
Did no-one tell you that you stank before Saturday? 
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19-10-2004, 01:23
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#124
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Originally Posted by andygrif
Did no-one tell you that you stank before Saturday? |
Reps would follow if it wasn't so obvious!
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11-10-2005, 01:46
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Re: smoking and the pub
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4327072.stm
smoking to be banned everywhere now it seems with one reserved area allowed for smokers no food or drink allowed as well as staff...
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11-10-2005, 02:58
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#126
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Re: smoking and the pub
Why do all you non-smokers keep following us smokers around anyway? 
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11-10-2005, 03:25
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#127
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Re: smoking and the pub
Blimey, a 12 month 
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11-10-2005, 09:18
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Re: smoking and the pub
being in Ireland, it is a far better life in the bars now that smoking has been stopped for quite a while, and the smokers i pal about with don't actually mind going out side, as there are large canopies that still keep them sheltered from rain.
Admittley there was complaints to start with, but nobody seems to care about it any more now - thats how i perceive it.
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17-10-2005, 17:42
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#129
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Re: smoking and the pub
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4346802.stm
I'll be able to get out and enjoy myself better. but I dont understand why it is being left til 2007 before being implemented
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17-10-2005, 18:20
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#130
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Originally Posted by liamboyle06
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Nice one. 
Got to give time for people and businesses to adapt to the change I guess.
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17-10-2005, 20:12
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Originally Posted by Salu
The decsion is really; As a non smoker, which do you prefer - Paying more taxes and living longer due to the decreased risk of passive smoking or being wealthier as a non smoker?
Smoking directly causes lots of diseases. Lung cancer is the well known one. But there are others for example; Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, Heart Disease, Other cancers (Throat, nose, mouth, pancreas, leukaemia etc), Circulatory problems, impotence, asthma, etc etc)
People often use the "Well I could go out today and get run over by a bus, so I might as well enjoy myself smoking...." To that I reply that being run over by a bus is probably a kinder way to die than smoking. Believe me, I have seen many people die from smoking and it is painful, degrading, scary (as you can't breathe) and slow.
You have to balance the pain/gain.
Any ban I would support wholeheartedly
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Could you quote some figures and comments concerning the risk to health of passive and active drinking ? The costs to the health service of treatments in A&E ? Every RTC caused by a sober or drunk driver costs £250,00 0 ! Passive drinking is prevelant in every area, fights in the street, criminal damage to property, kids without enough to eat because the old man, or woman is boozing every night, time wasted in courts punishing offenders for drink related violence and mayhem. Assaults on NHS, police bar staff and law abiding citizens, damage to street furniture.
Then there are the medical costs of alcohol abuse treatment in an already shaky health service. My local hospital is £7 M overspent this year, non-urgent surgery is being cancelled.
As an abstainer I find passive drinking a scourge in society and cannot believe that people who swallow ethanol for "fun" are upset when some one lights up a cigarette. Hypocrites or what ?
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17-10-2005, 20:14
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Re: smoking and the pub
Perhaps when they ban smoking i'll go back into the pub.
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17-10-2005, 20:20
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Re: smoking and the pub
Not sure if this has been suggested before but some mental health professionals are a little concerned about the potential increase in cases of depression if smoking is banned in pubs. Alcohol (depressant) + Nicotine (stimulant) = no change. Alcohol on its own = increase in depression. Just a thought anyway.
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18-10-2005, 00:13
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Re: smoking and the pub
IMO, banning smoking in pubs is possibly taking things a bit too far.
Having said that, as a smoker myself i'd probably go in the toilets for a sneaky one of it was cold outside anyway! Be like being at school again, except drunk .
I don't really care whether it happens or not, after all, there's not a lot i could do to stop it, i'll just follow the rules as they are enforced!
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18-10-2005, 01:57
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Re: smoking and the pub
You rebel
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