have you had religious experiances - Page 5

TheBig1 · 31-07-2003, 21:39

But why would anyone believe in something they cannot see or touch

kronas · 31-07-2003, 21:42

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But why would anyone believe in something they cannot see or touch

good question anyone whos religious gonna answer that ?

IMO its all BS id rather believe in something which has fact/substance

Ramrod · 31-07-2003, 22:40

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IMO its all BS id rather believe in something which has fact/substance

Thats not a belief then....it's the bleedin obvious

Russ · 31-07-2003, 23:30

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So how have we all sinned then, what are "his" laws? I don't mean to seem stupid but have kind of avoided that kind of thing for many years now.

Never heard of the 10 Commandments??

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and also what of all other religons? People may have devoted their life to budha and lived a selfless life but according to the bible would they too not be sinners?

Yes they would, God makes it clear to people who/what we believe is correct.

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Maybe If God cared to tell us what actually happens after we die, I might worship him!..

Seriousley though, im not spending my time worshipping someone, when as far as I can see, im not gonna gain anything from it. Sorry for being shallow

No problem, that's between you and Him.

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So why are there so many differing variations of the bible in circulation??

The original Old Testament was written in Hebrew and the New Testament was in Greek, so the different 'versions' relate to the translations.

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If a book which was written at least 400 years after the subject matter (IE Jesus's life) how can we be sure it is based on fact and not Myths?

Because a lot of what was written in scriptures was corroborated in other journals, such as Caesar's diaries. Jesus is mentioned in those too.

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But why would anyone believe in something they cannot see or touch

As Kronas says, it's based on faith. What helps is that God will communicate with you in His own way. He has already done so with me about my daughter.

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IMO its all BS id rather believe in something which has fact/substance

That too is between you and God, but please, don't refer to someone else's beliefs as BS. Is there any need to be offensive?

kronas · 31-07-2003, 23:41

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That too is between you and God, but please, don't refer to someone else's beliefs as BS. Is there any need to be offensive?

i said its my opinion in my mind it is BS i will state what i think whether it offends someone or not after all its MY opinion

Russ · 31-07-2003, 23:42

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i said its my opinion in my mind it is i will state what i think whether it offends someone or not after all it MY opinion

Yes but using such expressions as "BS" can be seen as offensive. This site is relaxed but using wording like that is still not good form.

imback · 31-07-2003, 23:47

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Never heard of the 10 Commandments??

But this then begs the question how would a new born child have not followed the commandments when they do not know what they are

I know you say they are paying for the sins of others but some how seems very cruel, when you consider how many "bad" people do well in this world.

kronas · 31-07-2003, 23:48

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Yes but using such expressions as "BS" can be seen as offensive. This site is relaxed but using wording like that is still not good form.

as long as its within forum gudielines i see no problem are we restricted by our opinions here were not free to express them ? im not breaking any rules am i NO

Russ · 31-07-2003, 23:53

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But this then begs the question how would a new born child have not followed the commandments when they do not know what they are I know you say they are paying for the sins of others but some how seems very cruel, when you consider how many "bad" people do well in this world.

They might do bad in THIS world, but not the next. We don't just have an existence in this dimension.

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as long as its within forum gudielines i see no problem are we restricted by our opinions here were not free to express them ? im not breaking any rules am i NO

Put it this way - you won't be continuing referring to anyone's religious beliefs as "BS".

kronas · 31-07-2003, 23:55

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Originally posted by Russ D

Put it this way - you won't be continuing referring to anyone's religious beliefs as "BS".

on anything i deem BS yep

imback · 31-07-2003, 23:55

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They might do bad in THIS world, but not the next. We don't just have an existence in this dimension.

I'm sorry to keep going on about this Russ but I find the difference in thinking between me and you very intersting.

Ok so you have said the bad wil/may get punished in the next life, but what about the innocent children that have had no life in this world, and what's more died in horrible ways?

Russ · 31-07-2003, 23:59

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I'm sorry to keep going on theRuss but I find difference in thinking between me and you very intersting.

Ok so you have said the bad wil/may get punished in the next life, but what about the innocent children that have had no life in this world, and what's more died in horrible ways?

When you say 'no life', what sort of age do you mean?

imback · 01-08-2003, 00:04

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When you say 'no life', what sort of age do you mean?

I'm talking weeks or evendays old, or children in Africa under the age of 5 looking on the ground for food or drinking disease ridden water.

If my child was taken away from me I could never accept that it was "the grand scheme of things".

kronas · 01-08-2003, 00:05

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But it's not your website to do with what you want, and behave how you want.

If you want to go around offending people no matter what, I suggest you go the the trouble of setting up your own website and doing it.

We are very relaxed here, but we have guidelines and we ask people to respect that.

Thank you.

i am under the guidelines when did i say i wouldnt respect them

im just expressing my opinion but it seems to me your restricting this just because its religion ?

its not a cheap 'pop' because its religion its my opinion of what i think on a subject not everyone agrees with it

please point to where i have gone past the 'line' in your guidelines

Russ · 01-08-2003, 00:07

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I'm talking weeks or evendays old, or children in Africa under the age of 5 looking on the ground for food or drinking disease ridden water.

If my child was taken away from me I could never accept that it was "the grand scheme of things".

OK, you'd need to look at the circumstances of how that child came to be where it was. In your example in Africa it's due to weather conditions. Satan was given limited power over the weather so he'd be involved in that, plus the 'alleged' corruption in those areas which lead people to spend government money elsewhere rather than on looking after it's people.

Governments would rather spend millions on weapons than feed it's own children, again this status quo would be of Lucifer.