have you had religious experiances
31-07-2003, 16:17
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have you had religious experiances
if so then its not god as i have said all along 
according to some scientific research certain so called 'incidents' maybe attributed to the way the individuals brain works in people who are susceptible to religious beliefs
apparently some patients were tested who had religious experiances and those that had a condition called temporal lobe epilepsy and those without
the scientist measured skin resistence in both sets of people and found a dramatic change in people who had the condition
"We found to our amazement that every time they looked at religious words like God, they'd get a huge galvanic skin response."
this was the first time evidence showed that there was significant activity in the temporal lobe that was linked to religious 'visions'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2865009.stm
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31-07-2003, 16:21
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(sigh) Here we go again.......
All these scientists have done IMO is find the ways through the brain that God uses to 'speak' to us....
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31-07-2003, 16:23
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(sigh) Here we go again.......
All these scientists have done IMO is find the ways through the brain that God uses to 'speak' to us....
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i find the evidence plausable also i did believe myself there was a susceptibility in people who believe in religion............
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31-07-2003, 16:24
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i find the evidence plausable also i did believe myself there was a susceptibility in people who believe in religion............
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And you're entitled to believe that.
Thread closed now?
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31-07-2003, 16:26
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And you're entitled to believe that.
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why thread closed im waiting for people to respond if they want to just because your a mod and dont agree with me doesent mean you can just go around closing threads you dont agree with whos censoring now ?
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31-07-2003, 16:28
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why thread closed im waiting for people to respond if they want to just because your a mod and dont agree with me doesent mean you can just go around closing threads you dont agree with whos censoring now ?
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If I was censoring this thread I would have just closed it!!
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31-07-2003, 16:30
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If I was censoring this thread I would have just closed it!!
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you offered to close it same thing really just politely doing it i think if this was your site you would do it regardless of what i said anyway enough of this.........
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31-07-2003, 16:34
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you offered to close it same thing really just politely doing it i think if this was your site you would do it regardless of what i said anyway enough of this.........
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Thank you for being so judgemental!
As a mod I can close a thread if I deem it neccessary, I have been given the authority to do so. But I won't close this as it is a valid topic.
Now think of all the threads this site and the other has had on this subject. Have I ever closed them, even when it looks like I'm backed in to a corner?
Now let's get on with this IMO tedious subject....
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31-07-2003, 16:42
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Originally posted by Russ D
Thank you for being so judgemental!
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np :p
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Now let's get on with this IMO tedious subject....
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please lets do that includes anyone and i assure you russ my intentions are clearly to back my belief in religion.........
now as you know i believe in science not everything i hear/read etc but as i said it seems very plausable to me and the fact that i had the suspicion anyway that people with religious beliefs were easily susceptable already backs that up but it seems the temporal lobe is the key to these visions and experiances people talk about and it is infact this specific area of the brian which for some reason is responsible for the visions/experiances that people say they 'experianced'
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31-07-2003, 16:45
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So what about all the police officers, pilots, doctors, nurses etc who have had such experiences, do you consider them to be 'easily susceptable' too?
Do you consider me to be too?
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31-07-2003, 16:48
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Originally posted by Russ D
So what about all the police officers, pilots, doctors, nurses etc who have had such experiences, do you consider them to be 'easily susceptable' too?
Do you consider me to be too?
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each individual is diffarent russ but i do think its linked to the brain i have seen how easy it is to 'brianwash' people who are under false religious pretenses
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31-07-2003, 17:00
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each individual is diffarent
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So you're now saying that maybe some of these people aren't so easily influenced?
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31-07-2003, 17:07
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So you're now saying that maybe some of these people aren't so easily influenced?
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no im saying that some people have it in there blood so to speak from there parents etc and have it drilled in to them at an early age while others listen to the church and are the most susceptable ones teenagers/adults IMO
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31-07-2003, 17:14
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no im saying that some people have it in there blood so to speak from there parents etc and have it drilled in to them at an early age while others listen to the church and are the most susceptable ones teenagers/adults IMO
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So you ARE saying I'm susceptable!!
So in your opinion nobody just walks in to a church and experiences God unless they are 'brainwashed' (to coin a phrase) or 'easily susceptable'?
How many Christians and 'religious people' do you know personally?
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31-07-2003, 17:18
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So you ARE saying I'm susceptable!!
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im saying there is the susceptable factor i believe so for people with religious beliefs
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So in your opinion nobody just walks in to a church and experiences God unless they are 'brainwashed' (to coin a phrase) or 'easily susceptable'?
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no i used the brianwash thing as an example of why i think there is truth in this research
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How many Christians and 'religious people' do you know personally?
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none but thats because none of my freinds are religious it wouldnt bother me if they were just as long as they didnt try and 'convert' me
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