[Merged] 2004 US Presidential Election

If bush was wired during the first debate he has some crappy advisors although there were some odd responses

http://nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/di...5456/index.php

He had 30 secounds left, had not not to hurried by anyone ..... why the 'let me fiinish' and the stuttering

There is a clear retangle bulge in his jacket

THe white house have called them photos fake until it was seen on TV footbage and now they are not commenting

In the last debate keyy patted bush on the back in the exact some location as the reported transmitter

THe bush camp said they didnt want any camras behind the candidates although fox news did do that which is where the pictures are

Seems like it might well be true, what happens if it was true?

[andygrif]

Originally Posted by Damien

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There is a clear retangle bulge in his jacket

Is that an earpiece in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?

[goldoni]

The result of the American election in less than three weeks could have huge consequences for the whole world. Yet those of us outside the 50 states have had no say in it. Until now, that is.

he he he

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and the responses

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[Mal]

I saw that before

I don't like Bush, but I do think it was a stupid thing to do. Personally, if it was the other way round, the American media, I would take offense at it and say something similar to those comments.

By the way, I hope everyone starts to brush/floss their teeth now that we've been shown up

[downquark1]

And another response summarised as, "we are stupid bit we don't care":
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,135823,00.html

pfft america seem to like interferes with out countrys goverments if it suits them.....

ok that was cheap

[Tricky]

It should be noted that the text in the links in the 1st post contains some bad langauge

[ZrByte]

Where do they get this bad yellow teeth thing from anyway?

have you also noticed how all the ones who dissagreed with this insisted on swearing and resorting to stupid stereotypes?

[andygrif]

Originally Posted by goldoni

The result of the American election in less than three weeks could have huge consequences for the whole world. Yet those of us outside the 50 states have had no say in it. Until now, that is.

he he he

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and the responses

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Wonderful! The responses are fairly typical of what I'd expect...but one made me smile.....

My dear, beloved Brits,
I understand the Guardian is sponsoring a service where British citizens write to Americans to advise them on how to vote. Thank heavens! I was adrift in a sea of confusion and you are my beacon of hope!

Feel free to respond to this email with your advice. Please keep in mind that I am something of an anglophile, so this is not confrontational. Please remember, too, that I am merely an American. That means I am not very bright. It means I have no culture or sense of history. It also means that I am barely literate, so please don't use big, fancy words.

Set me straight, folks!
Dayton, Ohio

An American with a sense of irony...now there's a thing!

Originally Posted by ZrByte

Where do they get this bad yellow teeth thing from anyway?

Two words... yeah baby!

[punky]

OK, I have re-written this for about the 6th time (hopefully to avoid getting red-repped). I am trying not to deliberately attack anyone, but it is hard...

But here we go again. Never under-estimate the inflated self-importance/arrogance/superiority complex/ego of people. This is as bad, or worse than that other Guardian article a while back "Americans are too stupid to vote for the right leader". I was ashamed of my country then, and I am ashamed now. If someone wants to vote for Bush, fine. If someone wants to vote for Kerry, equally fine. It is their choice, not mine to make, no matter how clever I think I am. Same goes for all other Brits.

[andygrif]

It's a difficult subject punky (don't worry no red coming from me)!

I think it is very arrogant of the Grauniad [sic] but I also think it was somewhat light-hearted (at least I hope so).

That said, Americans (at the risk of classifying an entire nation) are far more insular than many other nationalities. More generally this particularly effects the more rural areas and places like the Deep South. There is a more serious underlying message that the Guardian is sending in that many Americans simply don't understand the consequences of foreign policies.

Don't get me wrong, this isn't their fault, it's all about what they are fed. I lived in the US for six months and I really struggled to get balanced news coverage but more worrying was the virtual lack of pretty much all foreign news.

It's a chicken and egg situation, in that people don't ask for it so the networks don't give it, so the people don't ask for it.

America is only really waking up to the fact that there is a world outside of their continent...bear in mind the current President didn't even have a passport before taking office - likewise most Americans also don't have a passport. Again, not their fault - everything they need (climate, commerce, etc) is contained at home - and if it's not then it's available over the borders in Mexico or Canada (and you don't need a passport to go there).

You're right though Punky, it is their choice to make - but they need to be aware of possible consequences of making that choice. It's never our place to tell anyone (at home or abroad) who to vote for.

[andygrif]

On a separate note...someone sent this to me today...very funny

http://www.boomchicago.nl/Section/Vi...oVotingMachine

[punky]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ullandbones_dc

Now a big deal was made of Bush being in there, but first I have heard of Kerry being involved. So much for a conservative media. And to think, that come next Jan, on of those nutcases will be in charge of the US

I knew for ages about kerry being in skill and bones, it was covered long before he came to be the nominne