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Old 23-09-2004, 14:21   #1
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Question + and - signs

How do I type one of these over the other

e.g + or - > 2 meters
with the + directly above the - sign if you see what I mean

have to copy some typing and can't figure out how to do it. Would appreciate any help
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Old 23-09-2004, 14:25   #2
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Re: + and - signs

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How do I type one of these over the other

e.g + or - > 2 meters
with the + directly above the - sign if you see what I mean

have to copy some typing and can't figure out how to do it. Would appreciate any help
Hold down Alt and tap in 0177 on your numeric keypad.

Or copy and paste this: ±

HTH


EDIT

You can almost always find this sort of info in the Windows Character Map - in my Win2k it's under Programs > Accessories > System Tools.
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Old 23-09-2004, 14:26   #3
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Re: + and - signs

If you hold down Alt then type 241 on the number pad, you'll get ±.

HTH

EDIT: DANG IT! Beaten again! Hmm, 2 different ways of doing exactly the same thing - spooky!
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Old 23-09-2004, 14:27   #4
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Re: + and - signs

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Hold down Alt and tap in 0177 on your numeric keypad.

Or copy and paste this: ±

HTH
what a guy! cheers - that 0177 is the ascii value I take it - or something like that
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Old 23-09-2004, 14:28   #5
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what a guy! cheers - that 0177 is the ascii value I take it - or something like that
No idea, but Nug's number seems to work as well - the Character Map allows you to copy characters into your clipboard but it also displays the relevant keystroke shortcut. In my Character Map it displays 0177, don't know where Nug found 241.
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Old 23-09-2004, 14:31   #6
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No idea, but Nug's number seems to work as well - the Character Map allows you to copy characters into your clipboard but it also displays the relevant keystroke shortcut. In my Character Map it displays 0177, don't know where Nug found 241.
Hmm, I've just always used 241, and I'd never heard of using 0177

Oh well, it just shows how good this place is - 1 questions, 2 answers and they're both right!
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Re: + and - signs

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No idea, but Nug's number seems to work as well - the Character Map allows you to copy characters into your clipboard but it also displays the relevant keystroke shortcut. In my Character Map it displays 0177, don't know where Nug found 241.
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Character map (XP) also gives the unicode values, and in this case that is 00B1 (hex) which is 241 decimal.

Also there are two sets of ALT codes, the normal (older) as used by Nugget, ALT+NNN type and the ANSI (newer ??) ALT+0NNN type.

Personally I prefer the older set, as I learnt those way back in the dim and distant past of Win3.1
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Re: + and - signs

Note that not all fonts have full character sets (esp. cheap/shareware ones) so typing ALT 241 or whatever might not produce anything (or a will produce a box).
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Re: + and - signs

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Note that not all fonts have full character sets (esp. cheap/shareware ones) so typing ALT 241 or whatever might not produce anything (or a will produce a box).
As it happened - somebody came in an insisted on having the document as it was before I found out how to do it on the forum.

So the document went out with "plus or minus > 2 metres" on it - still - I will know next time
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Re: + and - signs

How do you do the "less than or = to" and "greater than or = to" like a combination of whichever <, > and = signs?
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Re: + and - signs

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How do you do the "less than or = to" and "greater than or = to" like a combination of whichever <, > and = signs?
Start using LaTeX. It's designed for producing mathematical, scientific and engineering papers, and contains every symbol you could ever think of using, and then a few more.

It's a markup language (like HTML) rather than an MSWord-style WYSIWYG programme, but the end result is much better looking than word. There's even a WYSIWYG version out there called Lyx, though I don't know how will it works on Windows.
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Re: + and - signs

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How do you do the "less than or = to" and "greater than or = to" like a combination of whichever <, > and = signs?
this one is font dependant - under arial Alt+2265 and Alt+2264 do the job.



but in this default font - you get 2264= ÃÃâ€*’ and 2265= ┘


If you go to the Character map function of windows (under Accessories, System tools) you should be able to see the characters - just click on them to find the keystroke.

However - be aware that some do differ from font to font...

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Re: + and - signs

Office 97 came with something called Microsoft Equation Editor. It seems very buggy but handles things like >= with ease. It doesn't install as standard - you have to go looking for it - but it might be worth a whirl.

As a matter of interest, what does '± > 2 meters' mean?
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Office 97 came with something called Microsoft Equation Editor. It seems very buggy but handles things like >= with ease. It doesn't install as standard - you have to go looking for it - but it might be worth a whirl.

As a matter of interest, what does '± > 2 meters' mean?
It means everybody's favourite forum time waster is back again. Time to put a lid on this, I think.
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