help camcorder - Page 2

tick · 21-09-2004, 21:54

thanks all of to bed now will try again thursday

dilli-theclaw · 21-09-2004, 21:58

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Originally Posted by Scrubbs

or one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...uid=51190 then you don't actually need the cam corder just the card

Do digital camcorders record the video on a card? That sucks you can't get much on a card then

Scrubbs · 21-09-2004, 22:02

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

Do digital camcorders record the video on a card? That sucks you can't get much on a card then

Features:

Compact MiniDV digital camcorder with SD or MMC memory slot
the modern camcorders do

dilli-theclaw · 21-09-2004, 22:15

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Originally Posted by Scrubbs

Features:

Compact MiniDV digital camcorder with SD or MMC memory slot
the modern camcorders do

The specifications state that the SD and MMC are for digitial stills...

So we need to see what tick plans to use it for

If this is the case you are not going to be able to transfer video via the SD or MMC card slot.

Stuart · 22-09-2004, 09:15

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Originally Posted by Scrubbs

Features:

Compact MiniDV digital camcorder with SD or MMC memory slot
the modern camcorders do

Usually only short clips, or very low quality.

SMHarman · 22-09-2004, 10:04

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

Do digital camcorders record the video on a card? That sucks you can't get much on a card then

The camcorder records to tape, normally mini DV tapes about the size of tictac boxes. Some new ones record to DVD in various forms. Camcorder footage in its raw form is about 500mb / minute or something of that magnitude (well the 22 mins i dumped onto the PC last night was 9GB).

The card is for still capture (using the camcorder like a digital camera), but a camcorder CCD is less than 1MP, so the resolution is not great, you can also use them to store images to on camera cross fade or bluescreen depending on the camera.

Sony as ever use digital8 camera tapes instead of the general market standard of MiniDV.

Stuart · 22-09-2004, 10:22

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Originally Posted by SMHarman

The camcorder records to tape, normally mini DV tapes about the size of tictac boxes. Some new ones record to DVD in various forms. Camcorder footage in its raw form is about 500mb / minute or something of that magnitude (well the 22 mins i dumped onto the PC last night was 9GB).

The card is for still capture (using the camcorder like a digital camera), but a camcorder CCD is less than 1MP, so the resolution is not great, you can also use them to store images to on camera cross fade or bluescreen depending on the camera.

Sony as ever use digital8 camera tapes instead of the general market standard of MiniDV.

Actually, Sony support both (depending on the camera you buy). Heaven knows why they thought we need another format though.

**Chris** · 22-09-2004, 10:31

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Originally Posted by scastle

Actually, Sony support both (depending on the camera you buy). Heaven knows why they thought we need another format though.

Digital-8 allows them to offer backwards-compatibility with older 8 and Hi-8 formats, and an upgrade path for owners of cameras that use those older formats. I have one or two '8' tapes recorded using my dad's Sony camcorder 10 or 15 years ago. They play just fine in my Sony Digital 8 camcorder, which I bought four or five years ago. The camcorder will even allow me to transfer the contents of those analogue tapes via Firewire to my Mac. All in all, a very good product IMO.

SMHarman · 22-09-2004, 10:44

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Originally Posted by Chris T

Digital-8 allows them to offer backwards-compatibility with older 8 and Hi-8 formats, and an upgrade path for owners of cameras that use those older formats. I have one or two '8' tapes recorded using my dad's Sony camcorder 10 or 15 years ago. They play just fine in my Sony Digital 8 camcorder, which I bought four or five years ago. The camcorder will even allow me to transfer the contents of those analogue tapes via Firewire to my Mac. All in all, a very good product IMO.

Except the 2004 range of digital 8 camcorders dropped most of this functionality to basically make them a separate digital format with none of the backward compatibility.

**Chris** · 22-09-2004, 10:47

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Originally Posted by SMHarman

Except the 2004 range of digital 8 camcorders dropped most of this functionality to basically make them a separate digital format with none of the backward compatibility.

Just as well I already bought mine then ... perhaps they think there is no longer much of a market for it and are looking for ways to reduce costs? All the same, an odd decision by a company famed for its odd decisions.

SMHarman · 22-09-2004, 12:37

The ability to put a Hi8 tape in and send it to the PC by firewire is handy, but not essential.

As long as your old hi8 camcorder keeps working and your new one as an AV>DV option (like my Canon MV630i) you can plug Sony Analogue 8 CC > (say) Cannon MV630i > Firewire PC cable.

bob_a_builder · 23-09-2004, 12:16

Now if you had one of these it wouldn't be an issue

**Chris** · 23-09-2004, 12:27

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Originally Posted by bob_a_builder

Now if you had one of these it wouldn't be an issue

Au contraire, Blackadder:

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Biggest drawback: the camera won't work with a Mac. Apple's QuickTime format has no support yet for AC 3 audio, which JVC uses for its camera.

SMHarman · 23-09-2004, 12:36

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Originally Posted by bob_a_builder

Now if you had one of these it wouldn't be an issue

Not quite true, many video edit suites to not like working with MP2 files, they want raw DVI type footage.

tick · 23-09-2004, 22:36

This is my pc
does it help
I am looking to do this on the cheep