GeForce 4 MX440 showing as an MX 420?

[Richard M]

It probably is a 420 then, with 64MB of SDRAM.
It supports DirectX 7, with no pixelshaders.

My mate said it's a MX 440, it shown MX 440 on his machine and support Vertex shading and Pixel shading.

[Richard M]

It does not have Pixel Shaders.

[paulyoung666]

so it looks as though it was total confusion for nothing

[Shaun]

Have you run AIDA32 or similar to see what it shows up as?

Yes, everything reports it as an MX 420.

[Richard M]

Go to Start > Run then type "dxdiag" and press Enter.
Click on "Save Info" then copy this bit into a post:

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Display Devices
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Card name: RADEON 9800 PRO
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: RADEON 9800 AGP (0x4E48)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48&SUBSYS_00021002&REV_00
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (85Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6458 (English)

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce4 MX 420
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0172&SUBSYS_015A10DE&REV_A3
Display Memory: 64.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (16 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: HP D2806A Ergo Ultra VGA 15-inch Display
Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6177 (English)

[paulyoung666]

i wonder if it might be a mx420 then , sorry but i reckon this has been a wild goose chase

[Richard M]

It's definitely an MX420, the hardware wouldn't lie about it.

[Matth]

The MS-8878 (MSI) is either a MX420, or an MX440SE (slow edition)
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p...0D-T&class=vga
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p...SE-T&class=vga

The Geforce 4 MX does not support pixel shaders at all (NV17 chip) - and The NV18B (8x AGP, second version) has, so I read, a limited degree of vertex shader support.

They are basically a glorified version of a Geforce2, and have little to do with a "real" Geforce 4 - a lovely bit of misleading numbering by Nvidia!

Lovely PCI ID that, tells you a lot
VEN_10DE&DEV_0172&SUBSYS_015A10DE&REV_A3
Breaking it down:
VEN_10DE - That means NVIDIA
DEV_0172 - That means a GF4 MX420 (the 440 is 0171 and the 440SE is 0173)
SUBSYS_015A10DE - Most likely unique to MSI card (015A) + Nvidia chipset (10DE)
REV_A3 - Chip or card revision is A3

I may aswell overclock it with the Omega drivers. I heard some people got very stable and good performance from it. I'm gonna do it in 5-10mhz, starting with the GPU then the memory

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Scott

I may aswell overclock it with the Omega drivers. I heard some people got very stable and good performance from it. I'm gonna do it in 5-10mhz, starting with the GPU then the memory

go for it , it aint gonna cost a lot to replace if you fry it

Well every one else who has done this has done it in 5-10mhz's, starting with the GPU first until it actually crashes, then role back to the last stable one, then the memory the same thing. I don't know any one who has fried it doing it this way, at least I have my musketeer to help me with the temperature. Gonna stick it's sensor on the heat sink, last person I know it stayed around 35C (and that was a 440).

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Scott

Well every one else who has done this has done it in 5-10mhz's, starting with the GPU first until it actually crashes, then role back to the last stable one, then the memory the same thing. I don't know any one who has fried it doing it this way, at least I have my musketeer to help me with the temperature. Gonna stick it's sensor on the heat sink, last person I know it stayed around 35C (and that was a 440).

are you really 16 ????????? , or 16 going on 60


if you are 16 then lighten up and try and see the humour in ppl's posts or you are gonna have a tough time ahead of you