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Old 01-09-2004, 01:10   #61
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Re: The new iMac G5

Apart from the high prices and low-end crappy graphics cards...
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Old 01-09-2004, 01:14   #62
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Re: The new iMac G5

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Ted Alspach, Adobe's Group Product Manager for Illustration Products, advises new computer buyers to get a PC: "As of 2003, Windows systems have taken a decisive lead over Macs when it comes to performance. The difference is most apparent with graphics applications such as Photoshop and Illustrator, but you''ll notice it with other applications as well. If you?'re thinking of purchasing a new system, and speed and responsiveness is important (or at least more important than the feel of the OS, I suggest getting a zippy PC over a (comparably) sluggish Mac".
Adobe, that one time cornerstone of Mac'ishness advise people to buy PC's over Mac's.

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5060
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Old 01-09-2004, 01:15   #63
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Again power over 1) reliabilty 2) looks 3) quality


And most of all each user has there own needs some just want a pc to use dial up for hotmail and to write documents.

Others want hardcore high res Anti Alias gaming with super graphics and mega fast Broadband connections.

All ends up what you want...for most users I find I-Mac's are a better choice for the average user, and when I went pc world recently at Oldham i was speaking to someone who actually was interested in what I wanted..who recommend a E-Mac £499 and I have tested one there and am now seriously thinkin of getting one for online work and keeping the windows one for offline stuff such as messin with the primitive thing which is windows lol..

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Re: The new iMac G5

tbh, there are no benchmarks for games under a mac because there isnt any, so we dont know if a pc will beat it or not

And graphics card vendors havnt made there stuff compatiable because there isnt a decent games to run on a mac, hence its not profitable for them to do this.
Its just simple business at the end of the day....and if Nvidia did go out of their way to make their graphics cards compatiable with macs, then im sure alot of people/gamers would make the swap.

what im trying to say is, if software/hardware was made available to both x86 systems and macs then whats stopping people using a mac as you would a pc?
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Old 01-09-2004, 01:18   #65
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tbh, there are no benchmarks for games under a mac because there isnt any, so we dont know if a pc will beat it or not

And graphics card vendors havnt made there stuff compatiable because there isnt a decent games to run on a mac, hence its not profitable for them to do this.
Its just simple business at the end of the day....and if Nvidia did go out of their way to make their graphics cards compatiable with macs, then im sure alot of people/gamers would make the swap.

what im trying to say is, if software/hardware was made available to both x86 systems and macs then whats stopping people using a mac as you would a pc?
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Re: The new iMac G5

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tbh, there are no benchmarks for games under a mac because there isnt any, so we dont know if a pc will beat it or not
http://www.barefeats.com/p4game.html

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And graphics card vendors havnt made there stuff compatiable because there isnt a decent games to run on a mac, hence its not profitable for them to do this.
That's because people have sense enough not to buy Apple products.

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Its just simple business at the end of the day....and if Nvidia did go out of their way to make their graphics cards compatiable with macs, then im sure alot of people/gamers would make the swap.
Correct, but they won't go out of their way because the userbase for mac's will always be miniscule.

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what im trying to say is, if software/hardware was made available to both x86 systems and macs then whats stopping people using a mac as you would a pc?
As you said, simple business, if I were a software developer who came up with an idea for some revolutionary bit of software, what would I do? Would I develop it for the market that'll generate the most sales? Or go bankrupt and flog it to Mac users?
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Re: The new iMac G5

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Again power over 1) reliabilty 2) looks 3) quality
There's nothing low quality about my PC, my components are excellent, I have a decent Asus Nforce 2 motherboard, a £200 7.1 soundcard, 500 gig of storage on 2 new Seagate drives, a 54g wireless NIC, a Radeon 9800 pro (which is about the only thing that let's me down), a gig of low latency 400mhz ram and a decent PSU, the motherboard, video card and processor are cooled using over 200 quids worth of kit, and if that's not enough for you, look at RichardM's spec. I'm pretty sure I can live without a plastic case. And reliability? Sorry man, if you can't maintain a windows PC properly, that's your problem, poor workman and all that.[/quote]

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All ends up what you want...for most users I find I-Mac's are a better choice for the average user
How and why?

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and when I went pc world recently at Oldham i was speaking to someone who actually was interested in what I wanted..who recommend a E-Mac £499 and I have tested one there and am now seriously thinkin of getting one for online work and keeping the windows one for offline stuff such as messin with the primitive thing which is windows lol..
You took the recommendation from someone who works in PC World? I can't really add anything to that.

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Re: The new iMac G5

Yeah, real "low quality"...
http://www.richardm.co.uk/images/for...%20(Small).jpg
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http://www.richardm.co.uk/images/forums_etc/FX53/
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Re: The new iMac G5

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OT - That corsair ram? What timings do you get off that ? & run the 1mb Super Pi, would be interested to see what you get :p
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OT - That corsair ram? What timings do you get off that ? & run the 1mb Super Pi, would be interested to see what you get :p
2,5,2,2 and 6 min, 26 seconds on the 8MB.

Update: OK I get 36 seconds on the 1MB with loads of programs like MSN and SETI running. Is that good?
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Re: The new iMac G5

There was a comp on OCUK forums with the 1mb Super Pi..

http://g0ng0r.com/pics/ocuk_superpi_top50.png (Thats some of the results)

I think Seti/MSN, etc affect it alot.. you'l probably get in the region of 32 secs with that overclock at the minute. Is that your max overclock with stock cooling, or can you push it further ?
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Re: The new iMac G5

I can take it further, up to 2.57 has been my max ATM but I don't have an AGP lock on this board so I can't take it any further.
I know one guy on the OCUK forums who has his at 3GHz.
Mine was at 5th place I think but that might have dropped a bit now:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...58#post2933358
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I can take it further, up to 2.57 has been my max ATM but I don't have an AGP lock on this board so I can't take it any further.
I know one guy on the OCUK forums who has his at 3GHz.
Mine was at 5th place I think but that might have dropped a bit now:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...58#post2933358
Best be getting a new board and squeezing whatever you can outta it then
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The number of threads on forums right across the internet prove only one thing - that there are PC lovers and there are Mac lovers, and never the twain shall meet. Different things appeal to different people.

In my case, the thing has to look good ... Mrs T won't have it in the house, otherwise. The promise of an iMac was the only reason I was allowed to buy a new machine five years ago! (incidentally, Mrs T snorted at the screen while I was posting last night and said she bet you couldn't build a PC that looked as pretty as an iMac does )

There is also the home-building/maintaining aspect ... fair point about the MGF, it was late, I was tired ... you get the point I was making though, not everybody considers being able to build it yourself to be a positive selling point.

Yes, Microsoft has pretty much trounced Apple, for the time being at least, but I still reckon that given a level playing field Mac OS, and the iMac, would fare vastly better against Windows XP than it currently does. M$ has been trying to make its OS more like Mac for years now, precisely because it knows that this is what the customer wants. In that sense, all you hardened XP users have Apple to thank
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