[merged] NTL & BitTorrent - Page 8

KyleMac · 22-08-2004, 13:40

Azureus, and everything has a greenlight.

I haven't changed anything for a few months and everything worked fine until a few days ago.

KyleMac · 22-08-2004, 14:16

My thread has been merged with a 9 months old thread that has nothing to do with my thread other than bittorrent?

This merged thread is a list of obvious solutions that I tried before replying. This isn't some port ****up on my part, this is something ntl has a changed a few days ago during a downtime.

KyleMac · 22-08-2004, 14:51

Let me state some things:

1. Everything worked fine until the downtime I mentioned. I haven't changed a thing, it started doing this straight after the downtime.

2. All torrents now on average download at 1.1kb/s, but it sometimes goes up to 2.1kb/s, 3.2kb/s, 4.2kb/s or 5.2kb/s.

3. Manually setting an IP in Azureus makes no difference.

4. It is not a seed or peer problem.

These are private torrents on private trackers
I've been downloading so slowly for so long that there's now 20 seeds per peer on some torrents.

5. It is not proxy related.

I haven't set a proxy in my browser forever
I don't use IE
Azureus has it's own proxy setting anyway, so it probably doesn't listen to IE/Windows for that information

6. It is not a port problem.

These trackers use port 81, so even if it was a proxy problem I don't think port 81 would effect it
I have ports 6880-6900 forwarded. It's such a large range due to the early bittorrent clients requiring a different port for each torrent

7. I've been using bittorrent for well over a year now. It has worked flawlessly until the recent downtime.

**Chris** · 22-08-2004, 16:18

Just for you (as I can't be bothered with any P2P personally) I have downloaded and installed Azureus for Mac to try it out on my recently upgraded NTL 750k line. It is now downloading a certain well known and current feature film (which I shall be deleting at the conclusion of this experiment). The average speeds appear to be d/l at 5k, u/l at 10k. So any suggestion of NTL interfering with Bit Torrent across its whole network is a red herring. I have absolutely no idea what the problem is for you, but it isn't anti-P2P activity by NTL.

KyleMac · 23-08-2004, 07:05

I fixed it, bit of an odd solution.

1. Tried shad0w's experimental client, same problem.
2. Uninstalled Azureus and shad0w's (making sure to delete any left over files in the install dir and Documents and Settings).
3. Reinstalled shad0w's, same problem.
4. Reinstalled Azureus, same problem.
5. Uninstalled both clients the same way as before.
6. Reinstalled Azureus. Didn't look like it would work, it was stuck at 1.1kb/s for a while, then 2.1kb/s, then 3.2kb/s, 4.2kb/s, 5.2kb/s... 20kb/s... 160kb/s. Anyone recognise that pattern?
7. Torrents that had an ETA of 1 day were finished in 10 minutes.

The reason? Well I can only guess it's because Azureus was running and downloading during the downtime. When my cable came back up, even though I had the same IP I had to reboot to get back on the net. My only assumption is that some setting changed and the BT clients didn't realise / Windows didn't tell the BT clients. Perhaps something was set to read only when Azureus was running.

NTLVictim · 07-09-2004, 18:11

Hi
I get urlopen error (10060 'operation timed out') , and I have to unplug the STB to re-establish any net connection.

I've been told that i may be "maxing out my connection", is there a way round this?

I'm using zonealarm, btw, and e-donkey has the same effect after a while, but no error messages..

Thanks

jtwn · 07-09-2004, 18:45

Grab netlimiter or someother bandwidth-limiting app, and limit the upload to 80% of its capacity. Works for me.

NTLVictim · 07-09-2004, 23:09

Thanks...

Does NTL kick you off when you max out, then?

Stuartbe · 07-09-2004, 23:11

Bittorent will easily max out your upstream. My brother-inlaw uses my network and he will often grind my 2mb connection to a halt

Considering blocking the ports ATM... Considering I have given him a machine he can use thats off a different connection.

TheShadow · 07-09-2004, 23:35

Download ABC Bittorrent (good P2P bittorrent client, I use it)

http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/download.php

Action > Global Upload Setting. Then tweak the preferences in that. I think the smallest you can set your upload per download is 2 or 3 KBps. Though if you're downloading more than 1 file the limit is seperate so say for example if you've set it to 2KBps limit and you're downloading 2 files then you'll be uploading 4KBps.

Tezcatlipoca · 07-09-2004, 23:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTLVictim

Thanks...

Does NTL kick you off when you max out, then?

They don't kick you off as such. It's because the connection can't cope with a saturated upstream. STB broadband connections are particularly vulnerable (they can lock up & you then need to reboot them), but I think it does affect standalone cable modem connections too.

Have a read of this: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d...mtips/p2p.html

You simply need to limit your upstream speed in your P2P app.

Tezcatlipoca · 07-09-2004, 23:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuartbe

Bittorent will easily max out your upstream. My brother-inlaw uses my network and he will often grind my 2mb connection to a halt

Considering blocking the ports ATM... Considering I have given him a machine he can use thats off a different connection.

Block him!!!

lozzer · 08-09-2004, 00:00

I have used Bit Torrent for approx 12 months quite successfully.

However, over the last 2 months, I struggle to reach 3KBps now. I use the Bit Tornado client and despite forwarding ports 6881 to 6890, the indicator on all torrents shows yellow which indicates a firewall or port issue (no firewall)

My brother (BT) has no problem.

I swapped the Pace Box for a Samsung one about 6 weeks ago, don't know if this is a coincidence.

I have tried all the tricks from the forums, but no joy.

I have rang NTL who were not interested so I have told them to cancel the TV, take away the STB and install a Cable Modem. I will give it a try before switching over to ADSL.

NTLVictim · 08-09-2004, 07:40

Thanks for all your help people..

Oh, am I right in saying you can't port-forward/manage using zonealarm basic?

Is there a freebie out there that is better?

sherer · 08-09-2004, 09:57

i'm coming to the conclusion that any actual use of the STB either in downloading or interactive will basically hang the box at some point.

This is one of the main gripes with NTL and surely one of the main reason's people. Surely NTL know about this but i've never heard anything about them actually doing anything about it