Merged: Windows XP SP2 - discuss it here! - Page 29

Richard M · 19-08-2004, 22:57

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Originally Posted by yesman

I decided to re-format my PC last night, having had sp2 installed previously, I went to download it again but got this message................

So I have got to wait now it seems

Us XP Pro users have to wait until next week too I think.
I doubt if I'll bother installing straight away though, it's not that important to me.

Ramrod · 19-08-2004, 22:57

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Originally Posted by Theodoric

2) I understand that the SP2 firewall is on by default. If I intend to continue using my present Sygate firewall, should I switch off the SP2 firewall as soon as SP2 is installed (and how is this done)?

afaik you should switch off the xp firewall as you have your own (superior) firewall. Since I don't have sp2 I can't help you with switching it of.

Frank · 20-08-2004, 05:45

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Originally Posted by Theodoric

There are also acknowledged problems with Adobe products (the Help system according to the Adobe site) and as I have Photoshop Elements 2.0 . . .

Hmm, I can do better than that - I have a DLL error on Photoshop launch, yet it still loads after clicking cancel.

But yes, SP2 is better, but it required a rebuild to work properly.

Bifta · 20-08-2004, 08:40

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Originally Posted by Frank

Hmm, I can do better than that - I have a DLL error on Photoshop launch, yet it still loads after clicking cancel.

But yes, SP2 is better, but it required a rebuild to work properly.

Which version of Photoshop? Doesn't occur on my machine with CS.

Bifta · 20-08-2004, 08:45

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Originally Posted by Theodoric

I understand that the new SP2 firewall is much superior to the rather primitive present XP firewall. So, two questions.

1) Should users of, say, Zone Alarm and Sygate abandon them and move to the SP2 firewall?

2) I understand that the SP2 firewall is on by default. If I intend to continue using my present Sygate firewall, should I switch off the SP2 firewall as soon as SP2 is installed (and how is this done)?

I don't think it makes an awful lot of difference which one you use to be honest, if you want to turn it off (I wouldn't personally use two in conjunction with each other), go in to control panel/security centre, at the bottom it say's "Manage security settings for:", click on Windows Firewall, click "off", click ok, click the firewall panel at the top, click "recommendations", and check "I have a firewall solution etc."

MetaWraith · 25-08-2004, 18:32

Well my own experience with SP2 went somewhat like this.

Usually I have my WinUpdates set to "Notify, but do not download or install"

After reading that SP2 was finally released but only for "Automatic Updates" I waited few days and then set my WinUpdates to automatic.

Lo and behold, last night it installed.

However, upon reboot it came up in chunky 640x480. Taking a quick look in DeviceManager there was NO display adaptor listed at all !!!!

Ho hummm so after a bit of fiddling around I finally resorted to using System Restore and rewinding back to before SP2.

Nothing like so called updates that mess with settings they have need messing with.

Paul K · 25-08-2004, 19:24

Well for anyone that wants to save themselves the download or want the CD as backup you can order XP SP2 from
http://support.microsoft.com/default...r=windowsxpsp2
(On the graphics settings being messed up, that is a very strange occurence

Haven't seen that complained about on the threads I have been watching

)

MetaWraith · 25-08-2004, 19:42

I have the full network install version of the download saved, have the CD on order, but due to yesterday's fubarring wont be giving it a 2nd try any time soon.

Using a generic software driver gives lousy performance.
No display adaptor listed in device manager meant I couldnt reinstall the drivers.

Hence the rewind back to before SP2. Checking my local pc dealers, they have had a few customers come in with this problem and their advice - dump SP2.

If you've got a working SP2 count yourself lucky.

Ramrod · 25-08-2004, 19:50

On the subject of windows update.....I checked on the xp updates page and had to click on a security certificate and then got a page that said: "Get the latest Windows Update software.

We've made improvements to our website. To download the new version of the software and begin using Windows Update, please click Install Now. "
Anyone know exactly what happens if I click 'install'?

Paul K · 25-08-2004, 19:53

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

On the subject of windows update.....I checked on the xp updates page and had to click on a security certificate and then got a page that said: "Get the latest Windows Update software.

We've made improvements to our website. To download the new version of the software and begin using Windows Update, please click Install Now. "
Anyone know exactly what happens if I click 'install'?

Have you got V5 of Windows Update running? If not then that is the update it is installing. They have been beta testing WAU V5 for a while prior to the release of SP2
Easy way to see if you are going to the new site is to see if Windows Update is taking you to
http://v5.windowsupdate.microsoft.co...ult.aspx?ln=en
If not then that is probably the update you are being told to install

Ramrod · 25-08-2004, 20:08

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Originally Posted by Paul

Have you got V5 of Windows Update running? If not then that is the update it is installing. They have been beta testing WAU V5 for a while prior to the release of SP2
Easy way to see if you are going to the new site is to see if Windows Update is taking you to
http://v5.windowsupdate.microsoft.co...ult.aspx?ln=en
If not then that is probably the update you are being told to install

Ta m8. Whatever happens, I don't want to install SP2 yet

25-08-2004, 20:24

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

Ta m8. Whatever happens, I don't want to install SP2 yet

With the problems found in it? I don't blame you.

I wonder if M$ will bring out SP5 for 2000

Paul K · 25-08-2004, 20:29

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Originally Posted by Electrolyte

With the problems found in it? I don't blame you.

I wonder if M$ will bring out SP5 for 2000

Funny thing is people only pick up on the problems with patches because very few people read posts that begin "SP2 installed perfectly and my PC is behaving without a flaw"

SP2 has problems, you will never be able to benchtest every single hardware/software combination out there, you can only safeguard the end user to a certain point, any tweaks, hacks etc that have been installed or settings that have been adjusted can affect a service pack install. MS are by no means perfect, far from it, but would you rather have hundreds of unprotected PCs out there being used by people that have never heard of a firewall or AV programme let alone run them ??

25-08-2004, 20:31

Well M$ do try there best, we all know they do otherwise they wouldn't bring out all these SP's (like 2000 SP4, basically makes the OS rock solid).

They will fix Sp2, and probably bring out Sp3 in the near time future

Paul K · 25-08-2004, 20:37

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Originally Posted by Electrolyte

Well M$ do try there best, we all know they do otherwise they wouldn't bring out all these SP's (like 2000 SP4, basically makes the OS rock solid).

They will fix Sp2, and probably bring out Sp3 in the near time future

SP3 will no doubt be a while to come as it will be a bundle of patches and updates. MS will more likely release small patches to remedy issues with SP2, if anyone has problems like MetaWraith or feels that they would prefer to wait I would give it till the end of next moth for bug reports to filter back to MS and then there will probably be a few patches or a new version of SP2 to install LOL