Will the Xbox work over a PPOA connection?
09-08-2004, 13:28
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Will the Xbox work over a PPOA connection?
I have just joined up with Plus.net, installed a Dlink DSL-300T ADSL ethernet modem & I can get my PC to work over the internet OK.
What I want to do next is get an Xbox working.
I have a Linksys BEFSR41 V2 DSL router, it does not want to work for me in this setup. So that aside, I want to try an Xbox plugged direct into the modem.
What do I have to do?
What settings do I need to set?
The connection uses PPOA, does the Xbox support this? or even need it? as I see PPOE in the settings.
When I plug the xbox in, I get cables OK, IP OK but it fails at the DNS settings, even when they are on automatic.
Any suggestions.
Thankyou.
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09-08-2004, 13:30
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Re: Will the Xbox work over a PPOA connection?
It's nothing to do with what the Xbox supports, only the router/modem needs to support whatever protocol your ISP dictates. The Xbox will just see a network connection and use it.
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09-08-2004, 13:38
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Re: Will the Xbox work over a PPOA connection?
Thanks for that Bifta, I did think it shouldn't make much difference.
Problem now is why does it not work then?
Oh bottoms...
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09-08-2004, 13:43
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Re: Will the Xbox work over a PPOA connection?
Hmmm u say the router doesn't want to work with the internet, can u say what you have tried with the router so far ?
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09-08-2004, 14:51
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Re: Will the Xbox work over a PPOA connection?
With regards to PPPoA & PPPoE explained Here (post#23) the only reason the Xbox would need to use PPPoA or PPPoE if it needed to dialup your provider first for dsl access as Bifta has said the Xbox will just see a network connection and use it.
usually reseting (using the reset button) the BEFSR41 v2 after the Dlink DSL-300T has detected the internet connection works.
what firmware (BEFSR41 v2) are you using is it v1.42.7?
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09-08-2004, 18:05
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Re: Will the Xbox work over a PPOA connection?
I'll find out about the firmware later when I try reconnecting it.
I have the modem working fine, its acting as a dhcp server & the PC can connect OK.
If I unplug the PC, plug the router in via its WAN port, turn off all of them, turn on modem, router, pc in that order (inc 30 sec delays) and with the modem set at 192.168.1.1 the router at 192.168.0.1, router dhcp server on starting at 192.168.0.1
When I turn the pc on, I can access the router config screen, but I cannot access the net nor the modem config pages.
I'm just about to try some reccomendations given in the xbox live faq Matuka posted here.
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09-08-2004, 19:52
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Re: Will the Xbox work over a PPOA connection?
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Originally Posted by zoombini
When I turn the pc on, I can access the router config screen, but I cannot access the net nor the modem config pages.
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Hmmm its usually the other way around (you can access your Adsl modem but not the BEFSR41) as it will not allow any thoughput.
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Originally Posted by zoombini
I'm just about to try some reccomendations given in the xbox live faq Matuka posted here.
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  oh! well! you wont need DrAwesomes help then hahahahaha
Just reflash the firmware in the BEFSR41 & you should get internet access when your DSL-300T is connected to your BEFSR41 v2 & once internet connection is established you should have no problem getting XBL access when your Xbox is connected to the BEFSR41 (providing your XBL account is valid)
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09-08-2004, 22:26
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Re: Will the Xbox work over a PPOA connection?
I have upgraded the firmware in the router to 1.46 June 24, 2004.
Yet no difference. I just cannot see anything happening.
I tried putting the DNS server (212.159.13.49) in the xbox, with the 2nd DNS server being 192.168.0.1 as Matukas guide suggests. Also setting the MAC address to match the ethernet card (00CoDFECD179).
With all other xbox settings set to automatic, when it tries to connect it now says cables OK then fails at the IP ??
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09-08-2004, 23:55
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Re: Will the Xbox work over a PPOA connection?
People are/were/still having problems with firmware v1.46 as discussed here (Only 1 bug fixed: v1.46 24/6/04 #1. Fixed DHCP renewal.) Anyway the above link might be useful reading.
I ran with both Cable & Adsl connections on the older version the Befsr41 came with thats why i suggested flashing the router back to an older firmware version.
What firmware version was the router before you flashed it to the newer firmware?
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10-08-2004, 00:06
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Re: Will the Xbox work over a PPOA connection?
Router problem seems to be sorted now.
I have connected it via port 1 with a crossover adapter on the cable.
That seems to work for the PC.
I will have to wait till I can get a crossover cable to replace it with then I can have the adapter back for the xbox cable (already xover & runs throughout the house) to make it a straight through one again.
Cuts the number of available ports to 3 now though. 
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10-08-2004, 00:19
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Re: Will the Xbox work over a PPOA connection?
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Originally Posted by zoombini
Router problem seems to be sorted now.
I have connected it via port 1 with a crossover adapter on the cable.
That seems to work for the PC.
I will have to wait till I can get a crossover cable to replace it with then I can have the adapter back for the xbox cable (already xover & runs throughout the house) to make it a straight through one again.
Cuts the number of available ports to 3 now though. |
If you want to try an older firmware version here is the download link straight from the linksys ftp site its for firmware version 1442z
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10-08-2004, 11:11
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Re: Will the Xbox work over a PPOA connection?
Why might I want to do that?
I do have 1.45.11 available too.
However, thanks for the link, as Linksys appear to have stopped supporting the V2 with updates or links to them from thier service pages I'll grab a copy of all relevent files.
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11-08-2004, 13:20
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Re: Will the Xbox work over a PPOA connection?
I'm well & truly ******ed off now.
This says its not compatable with XBL.
There was no info like that on Amazon.
And I doubt if they will take it back, thier returns policy does not mention anything about it not mentioned in the spec (of which there is none).
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12-08-2004, 10:12
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Re: Will the Xbox work over a PPOA connection?
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Originally Posted by zoombini
I'll find out about the firmware later when I try reconnecting it.
I have the modem working fine, its acting as a dhcp server & the PC can connect OK.
If I unplug the PC, plug the router in via its WAN port, turn off all of them, turn on modem, router, pc in that order (inc 30 sec delays) and with the modem set at 192.168.1.1 the router at 192.168.0.1, router dhcp server on starting at 192.168.0.1
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From looking above, the DHCP is assigning the same IP address as itself, maybe an IP address conflict, change your DHCP start range to 192.168.
1.10......
Also have you cloned your MAC Address on the router, you have to clone the MAC address that has been regsitered by your ISP, mine was for my network card, so you have to go to your router and tell it your PC network cards MAC address
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12-08-2004, 11:26
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Re: Will the Xbox work over a PPOA connection?
Yep, done the cloning.
I'm gonne get rid of these 2 and get an all in one, it should make life a lot easier (and free up a 240v socket  )
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