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Old 22-07-2003, 10:11   #1
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Off Net Associate Offers ?

P*** take large time me thinks.

Fellow associates can get some great deals, unfortunatley (or not), due to the responses I sometimes get, I dont not live in a serviceable area.

Does anyone know of any off net deals available for Associates?

Im out in the field all day so the intranet is not really an option, and customer services/HR seem a little pre occupied.

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Old 22-07-2003, 10:14   #2
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ummm....i think you only get something lame like 1/2 price freedom
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Old 22-07-2003, 10:26   #3
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Fantastic stuff eh, so my peers get the whole shhoting match TV wise for around £10 per month and 1M BB for £17.

Sounds about right.

Must remember to smile when on the doorstep then and getting grief about previous (HA) customer care
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Old 22-07-2003, 10:48   #4
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I seem to remember being told they did away with the original off-net deal shortly after I left ntl.

I used to use Sky when I was a Headend tech to look at channels when CS would phone me up, it was usefull to see if the problem was at source.

I seem to remember being told that one Headend tech was told he had to have Sky installed for this very reason!

I don't know if there is a new deal for off-net employees, I heard they were going to re-introduce it. Although it may be like the bonus the field guys were promised last year
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Old 22-07-2003, 11:02   #5
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AFAIK the off net deal was supposed to be the £15 freedom jobby that customers get but for £9.99 but then they were messing around with the prices and the last I heard was that it was going to be the same price as for custs.

Mind you we are going back a number of months now to when freedom was first launched because I fell out with my internal source and we have not spoken at all since.
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AFAIK the off net deal was supposed to be the £15 freedom jobby that customers get but for £9.99 but then they were messing around with the prices and the last I heard was that it was going to be the same price as for custs.

Mind you we are going back a number of months now to when freedom was first launched because I fell out with my internal source and we have not spoken at all since.
ntl freedom is the only offnet deal - I have it & pay £9.99 a month (which includes unlimited dial up & £15 worh of calls a month).

ntl did, many moons ago, provide you with sky if you lived in a non cabled area. This has been withdrawn, but I can't say I blame them. These are all perks of the job, not rights, and ntl had better things to spend their money on. There are still loads of other benefits ntl offer - I can't say they're the best employers ever, but I do believe you'd be hard pressed to find another company to match, let alone better their benefits.
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Old 22-07-2003, 15:00   #7
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To increase the profitability of NTL would it not be possible for associates to pay the same charges as normal members of the public .

This way we all keep the company profitable and make it grow.

I am not sure how many people take the associate deal but it just seems to be a good idea if we are all on a level playing field associates and members of the public.

It would bring more revenue into the company and allow for expansion in the network.

This would then reduce cost to everyone associates included.
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To increase the profitability of NTL would it not be possible for associates to pay the same charges as normal members of the public .

This way we all keep the company profitable and make it grow.

I am not sure how many people take the associate deal but it just seems to be a good idea if we are all on a level playing field associates and members of the public.

It would bring more revenue into the company and allow for expansion in the network.

This would then reduce cost to everyone associates included.
In that case, why do ANY employers offer 'perks' of the company?

mcdonalds offer cheaper meals, BA offer cheaper flights etc etc.

Think of it as a way of improving the morale of ntl staff, and so helping them to provide a slightly better service to you the customer?

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This would then reduce cost to everyone associates included
umm, i somehow doubt that cost reduction will be on the same scale as the associate package?
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Old 22-07-2003, 15:19   #9
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Maybe he works in the sex trade........
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I really must disagree with you that all employees get discounts on services.

I do not get any discounts in any way.

I presume it depends on what your employer actually provides but not every employer provides discounts.

Would shares in NTL not be a better way to encourage associates to perform better as opposed to free services?

After all shares would be linked to the profitability of the company.

As opposed to discounted offers of the services, or free tea and coffee.

It just seems to be a bit of a waste of money from NTL.

As a stakeholder in the business being a customer would really like my charges to fall, which would be possible if all paid the same.

Perhaps it is something that needs to be considered another option could be a larger install price for associates for example £200 that would show NTL commitment for the company.
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Would shares in NTL not be a better way to encourage associates to perform better as opposed to free services?


They allready tried that one!

I got shot of mine when they were $93 ish, the greedy ones held onto them because they believed Barclay when he said they would top $300
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I really must disagree with you that all employees get discounts on services.

I do not get any discounts in any way.
So are you saying that just because you don't get a company discount that others shouldn't either?
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So are you saying that just because you don't get a company discount that others shouldn't either?
Its a good idea would you not agree we get bonus and shares
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another thought is how are tax paid on these discounts its a payment in kind so should be taxable. Do associates that take the offer have to pay more tax . I would hope they declare it on there Tax return.

If you get a bonus its taxed shares are also taxed
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Perhaps it is something that needs to be considered another option could be a larger install price for associates for example £200 that would show NTL commitment for the company.


you cant be serious?? you want people to get PENALISED for working for a company??

i'm under the impression that discounts are offered to staff as a retention scheme ie, as an incentive to stay there and not, as you seem to be suggesting, to test their dedication to the company!

I'm sorry, working for ntl is a job, and not a way of life. the moment i get active descrimination for being there, ill be out the door....
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