Don't argue with me

Mal · 25-07-2004, 16:16

What was the ref doing with a gun on the pitch?

Richard M · 25-07-2004, 16:17

It's South Africa, that place is out of control.

danielf · 25-07-2004, 16:18

bloody hell

the phrase penalty shootout comes to mind...

Florence · 25-07-2004, 17:46

Perhaps until they have regained control the country shouldn't be allowed to play in world cups or host any games.

SOSAGES · 25-07-2004, 18:07

ive never meet a nice south african -

Escapee · 25-07-2004, 18:18

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Originally Posted by SOSAGES

ive never meet a nice south african -

I haven't either!

Only met one and she was a seriously deranged nasty b**ch, that gave the impression that butter wouldn't melt in her mouth.

until she found she wasn't getting what she wanted.

I think SA is full of viscious nasty people they have grown up like that due to the political/economic climate they live in, surrounded by muggings, rape, carjackings and murder on a daily basis.

Any of us would toughen up in that environment.

BBKing · 25-07-2004, 18:53

SOSAGES was quoting a Spitting Image song.

I've met plenty of nice South Africans, hard to avoid them in London these days.

SOSAGES · 25-07-2004, 19:01

cant sing all the song - upsets people

Jerrek · 25-07-2004, 19:02

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Originally Posted by Kits

Perhaps until they have regained control the country shouldn't be allowed to play in world cups or host any games.

Soccer, as a sport, has messed up fans. Coming from a soccer-loving country with some weirdo fans, I find what you're saying kind of ironic.

**Damien** · 25-07-2004, 19:23

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

Soccer, as a sport, has messed up fans. Coming from a soccer-loving country with some weirdo fans, I find what you're saying kind of ironic.

those 'messed up' fans are in the minority by a mile. I have been to loads of football matchs with upwards of 40,000 fans and never seen any trouble. It is just a few bad eggs bring down the game

BBKing · 25-07-2004, 19:26

Jerrek, I invite you to come out from under your bridge and investigate the behaviour of fans (and England fans in particular) at the recent Euro 2004 championships.

Kits - to be fair, you'd have to apply that to other countries with similar problems, such as Russia and Iraq, plus other sports the South Africans play such as cricket or rugby. An unrepresentative racist political system is a good justification for a sporting ban, a high crime rate isn't.

Florence · 25-07-2004, 21:02

I have to agree that all sports should be banned until the country can show that its past is behind and a better future with less violence and crime.

Jerrek · 25-07-2004, 21:05

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Originally Posted by Kits

I have to agree that all sports should be banned until the country can show that its past is behind and a better future with less violence and crime.

That is a very subjective measurement. What is "less violence and crime?"

**Damien** · 25-07-2004, 22:02

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

That is a very subjective measurement. What is "less violence and crime?"

A relatively stable crime level i would think, basically when the police force can cope a lot better and so forth. Its hard for us to know what the correct level is but those whos job it is to know, will know

Stuart · 25-07-2004, 22:22

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Originally Posted by Kits

I have to agree that all sports should be banned until the country can show that its past is behind and a better future with less violence and crime.

Ok. So you would ban all sports (even those with little violence in the crowds such as F1) because a tiny minority of thugs use football as an excuse for a fight?