Would you give this man a licence to drive a Taxi?

[Nemesis]

There is no personal information given, tying this information to an actual person. This could all be hypothetical ....

Originally Posted by Nemesis

There is no personal information given, tying this information to an actual person. This could all be hypothetical ....

Well, yes there is if someone wanted to dig through the court records they could use the list to eventually work out who the individual is. I think that this is quite a grey area publishing the list on here.

[Pierre]

The guy is obviously an habitual offender, there is no way he should be given a licence.

Judging by his record he is capable of anything. It's not just kids we should be worried about but you wives and girlfriends too, coming home by themselves a bit worse for wear after a night with the girls. Wold you want this guy driving her home?????

[zoombini]

Nidge, can I ask how you came by this information in the first place?

Has it been published on some other website etc?

[andygrif]

Whilst crimes involving 'interfering' with children should, in my opinion, result in spending the rest of the offender's life in prison - that is a topic for another thread I'm sure.

Like it or not, this person comitted his crimes about 30-40 years ago and under the justice system presently in place he has, as they say, served his time.

He disclosed his convictions as was required, and unless there is a provision saying that Mansfield Council will not grant licenses to people with such offences on record, then I cannot see how they have acted improperly. Whether it is morally right is another matter.

Another issue here is where would you want to draw the line? If he applied for a job in a burger bar? Supermarket? Street cleaner? Or would you rather that we all suppoted him as a long-term unemployed individual becuase no-one would give him a job becuase of his crimes a generation ago?

[Bex]

Originally Posted by andygrif

Whilst crimes involving 'interfering' with children should, in my opinion, result in spending the rest of the offender's life in prison - that is a topic for another thread I'm sure.

Like it or not, this person comitted his crimes about 30-40 years ago and under the justice system presently in place he has, as they say, served his time.

He disclosed his convictions as was required, and unless there is a provision saying that Mansfield Council will not grant licenses to people with such offences on record, then I cannot see how they have acted improperly. Whether it is morally right is another matter.

Another issue here is where would you want to draw the line? If he applied for a job in a burger bar? Supermarket? Street cleaner? Or would you rather that we all suppoted him as a long-term unemployed individual becuase no-one would give him a job becuase of his crimes a generation ago?

i see your point, but with regards to the convictions involving children, he should therefore not be in a position to be alone with a child. wokinf in a supermarket or burger king will not give him this oppurtinity, but being a taxi driver could

[zoombini]

where does it say when he committed those crimes??

The date stated is the date of the act of parliament isn't it?
I.E. indecency with children act 1960 S.1 = section 1 of the indecency with children act published in 1960.

So they could be more recent.
Not that it matters, once a pedo always a pedo.
Once offending, always offending - ask any parent.

Originally Posted by zoombini

Those last 3 should prevent him access to children "ever", no matter when they were done.

What I'd like to know is how Nidge got to know his CRB report details?
They are supposed to be confidential.

I found it on the floor if anyone asks.

Originally Posted by zoombini

Nidge, can I ask how you came by this information in the first place?

Has it been published on some other website etc?

I have his full Enhanced CRB record sat here, and no it hasn't been published on any other website. Like a fool he gave it to me to give my boss to photocopy, my boss called me in and said look at this here, he wants a job here he said he's go no hope. I took a photocopy thats how I came by it.

Originally Posted by andygrif

Whilst crimes involving 'interfering' with children should, in my opinion, result in spending the rest of the offender's life in prison - that is a topic for another thread I'm sure.

Like it or not, this person comitted his crimes about 30-40 years ago and under the justice system presently in place he has, as they say, served his time.

He disclosed his convictions as was required, and unless there is a provision saying that Mansfield Council will not grant licenses to people with such offences on record, then I cannot see how they have acted improperly. Whether it is morally right is another matter.

Another issue here is where would you want to draw the line? If he applied for a job in a burger bar? Supermarket? Street cleaner? Or would you rather that we all suppoted him as a long-term unemployed individual becuase no-one would give him a job becuase of his crimes a generation ago?

40 years ago is when the act came out, the driver concerned in only 29 years old. We need to tackle our Council head on but where do we start?

[zoombini]

The head of the council.

Isnt there some form of council watchdog... oh yes, so there is.
www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog

[andygrif]

Originally Posted by Nidge

40 years ago is when the act came out, the driver concerned in only 29 years old. We need to tackle our Council head on but where do we start?

Apologies, I think I read the charge list in a bit of hurry.

Even so, one presumes that this individual has served his sentances according to the justice system. I know it's the other end of the scale but say you had your driving license taken away because you had maxed out the points through speeding, would it be right to not be able to work as a driver ever again?

With regards to tackling the head of the council, this is not the place to start, they are acting within guidelines only and could not be seen to be removing someone's right to work.

[zoombini]

AFAIK if someone has committed ofences against children they go on "the" register & are prohibited from working where they can be in contact with children.
Full stop.

Is there a time limit to being a pedo?

[andygrif]

Like I said before, where do you draw the line? Burger bar, supermarket, streetcleaner? All these could potentially bring the person in contact with children.

What I would also point out here, as there has been publicity about this case, then it would unlikely that any cab company would put this individual in a position where he's taking unaccompanied children on journies.

No he should not get a job as a taxi driver.

The only job that pond **** like this deserve are as live targets on a firing range.