[Merged] NTL spam

[threadbare]

Originally Posted by Pem

That would be the complete lack of anything useful for blocking spam. I have virgin.net and ntl accounts [both running on ntl equipment]. Both used to get about equal amounts of spam (50 to 75 per day).

About two months ago, virgin implemented their anti-spam measures and now I hardly get one per day on that account. The ntl account still gets 70+ per day. Too compare with other services - I have a hotmail account - that no longer gets spam. I have an Orange account - that gets 40+ a day (yep, they have no clue about spam either).

If, as you have claimed in the past, ntl use anti-spam software then they clearly have it very badly configured. To all intents & purposes it is totally transparent - spam just passes right through it.

well my spam stopped last christmas when they started filtering for spam. used to get about 20 or so a day no I am unlucky if get 2 a week

[MetaWraith]

Originally Posted by threadbare

well my spam stopped last christmas when they started filtering for spam. used to get about 20 or so a day no I am unlucky if get 2 a week

Lucky you,

Until around about last October I got very little spam, then I started getting 70+ a day on each active account. I deleted the secondary accounts and recreated new ones. They are still relatively spam free. my prime one however is still getting its usual daily dose of spam. Thankfully filtering it via forwarding to another provider and also using mailwasher takes care of that.

I have this nagging feeling at the back of my neck that the positive correlation in timing between various acrimonious events at NTL and the massive increase in spam may not have been a coincidence.

[Hom3r]

NTLs e-mail service sucks like a toothless parrott.

In just four days I have got 1,488 e-mails YES you read correctly One Thousand four hundred and eighty eight of the b@st@rds. (UPDATE: 17 genuine 1 hour to sort and delete junk)

So many that Outlook locks and stops downloading even changing setting and nothing happens. so I have to use the webmail which is so ssssslllllllooooowww any one would think I have a dial up service.
any Ideas when NTL are going to bother filtering???
Also are there any ISP in the Harlow Essex area that I can switch to and still use my NTL cable modem (which I own) I'm even thing of going back to Dialup via Global Internet have anti-virus & spam filter all emails for free.

Originally Posted by david.ewles

NTLs e-mail service sucks like a toothless parrott.

In just four days I have got 1,488 e-mails YES you read correctly One Thousand four hundred and eighty eight of the b@st@rds.

So many that Outlook locks and stops downloading even changing setting and nothing happens. so I have to use the webmail which is so ssssslllllllooooowww any one would think I have a dial up service.
any Ideas when NTL are going to bother filtering???
Also are there any ISP in the Harlow Essex area that I can switch to and still use my NTL cable modem (which I own) I'm even thing of going back to Dialup via Global Internet how anti-virus & spam filter all emails for free.

that's incredible, is that all on one account?

I have two NTL addresses, one for a dial up account which gets 70 odd a day, the other for a broadband account, which gets virtually none.

The main difference between the two accounts is the dial up is used on the downstairs computer, which is often riddled with spyware, wheras the broadband is on my computer, which usually isn't. The other possible factor is that the address that attracts all the spam, was on my first homepage on NTL webspace as a 'mailto' link.

Other than sharing that, I don't know what to say, nearly 1500 in 4 days, sheesh

[Tech]

Originally Posted by david.ewles

NTLs e-mail service sucks like a toothless parrott.

In just four days I have got 1,488 e-mails YES you read correctly One Thousand four hundred and eighty eight of the b@st@rds. (UPDATE: 17 genuine 1 hour to sort and delete junk)

So many that Outlook locks and stops downloading even changing setting and nothing happens. so I have to use the webmail which is so ssssslllllllooooowww any one would think I have a dial up service.
any Ideas when NTL are going to bother filtering???
Also are there any ISP in the Harlow Essex area that I can switch to and still use my NTL cable modem (which I own) I'm even thing of going back to Dialup via Global Internet have anti-virus & spam filter all emails for free.

1488 emails in four days? You need to either:-

a) Stop signing up for porn

b) Stop sticking your most important email address in every site that asks for it

c) Scan your pc for viri/spyware/adware.

Everyone gets spam, but if youre getting this much you really need to assess the way you use the internet. Its all well and good moaning about ntls below par spam filter, but mummy cant hold your hand all the time. You need to take some responsibility for why youre experiencing spam in this volume. If needs be you can always use one of the 15 addresses to which youre entitled to enter in the sites you must be signing up for.

[hoggyspuds]

logged off last night around midnight. checked mail tonight, 20 hours later, 250 new messages, of which 3 were genuine. I am fed up using mailwasher to get rid of spam. I believe, the price i pay for using this isp, that there should be some sort of spam filter in place. It's getting beyond a joke. It really is. I don't want to change my e-mail address, but I am considering it. AOL seem to be able to block most of it....why can't Ntl?

[goldoni]

Originally Posted by Tech

1488 emails in four days? You need to either:-

a) Stop signing up for porn

b) Stop sticking your most important email address in every site that asks for it

c) Scan your pc for viri/spyware/adware.

100% agree with tech but would also add a d) Stop hitting the remove me link at the bottom of spam, as this only confirms your email addy.

I get about 350 spam emails per day and about 3 to 4 attached viruses. To combat this I have a legal "dare I say" Norton Internet Security :o that only lets 2 or three emails in to my inbox, then just scan the subject line and hit the empty the spam filter box and POOF it's gone. Most of my spam comes from the three domains I have my NTL account gets about two a day.

If NTL ever did get a working spam filter working I beat we would get loads of posts to CF " I have been waiting for an urgent email but NTLs crap spam filter keeps stopping it as spam" so my vote would be keep it as is so I can see all my email and sort it myself with the help of "NORTON" :o

P.S I have never signed up for any porn site, it would seem that others have or a robot just scans the domain web sites for email addys.

[AdeRickus]

Originally Posted by Tech

1488 emails in four days? You need to either:-

a) Stop signing up for porn

b) Stop sticking your most important email address in every site that asks for it

c) Scan your pc for viri/spyware/adware.

I dont sign up for porn,

I dont use the NTLworld email address

I have ad-aware and spysweeper which always come up clean apart from cookies,

So, Why do I get spam on an account I dont use ?

The only people that have the email address are NTL,

[greencreeper]

See my post here for my views on NTL filtering spam.

The main problem is where you use your email address on the web - forums, web pages and particularly newsgroups. I have different email addresses for different purposes, so for example, I have an address that is my real name and it receives no spam because only a few people have it and it's only used on my CV. For websites I don't trust, webpages and newsgroups I have a spam trap email address that forwards to my main address. I have Spampal configured to assign 200 points (500 being the level at which an email is tagged as spam) to any emails sent to the spam trap address. Every now and then, when spam is becoming excessive, I delete the email address and create a new one.

In short - it's possible to manage spam yourself and keep the number of emails you receive to a reasonable level. The people who have problems tend to be those who have one or two addresses and use them willy nilly. That said, given time spammers will find your email addresses, especially if they're simple and use words in the dictionary, perhaps with numbers app- or prepended. That's happened with my two main addresses and there's little I can do except filter out the spam, but it's not excessive.

[AdeRickus]

This is so frustrating,

I own my own domain, i dont use my email address for anything, i only collect it to get news from NTL and to be fair, thats not really worth it,

I dont use it on forums,

I don't sign up for porn,

I have no spyware,

I have no virii

And, I am convinced that someone has either stolen or bought the address list from NTL,

Only NTL know what my email address is, no one else ! ( NOONE ! )

[goldoni]

Originally Posted by AdeRickus

This is so frustrating,And, I am convinced that someone has either stolen or bought the address list from NTL, Only NTL know what my email address is, no one else ! ( NOONE ! )

Excuse my four-penny worth, but I think if this were the case we would see more postings on CF confirming what you are saying. Spam is a strange thing and seems to affect some more than others. The spam I get I know why one domain is hit more than others, I used a bit of software that was said to get you noticed in all the major search engines and not reading the full instructions I used one of my domain email accounts as the contact email, yes my site did start to be listed by the search engines and I got to number one or top 5 on that listing but the amount of spam went through the roof, slowly itâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s getting less and less, also sadly I used to hit the remove me link at the bottom of the spam email. So it was a case of hoisted by my own petard. That was two years ago.

Regarding getting spam on an unused NTL email account I would say is down to person or persons unknown have some way been able to get access to your address book / accounts or you have hacked off a person who has access to your account. But NTL as a company selling your details they would have to be mad as the money they would make would be far outweighed by the money they would loose if this was found to be true.

Why donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t you make another NTL address with the same name and just add 123 donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t add it to your email client accounts list, just check it from time to time with web mail and see how long it takes to get spam on that account, if your right it will happen! But I bet you it will never get one email apart from the welcome one.

[AdeRickus]

Originally Posted by goldoni

Why donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t you make another NTL address with the same name and just add 123 donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t add it to your email client accounts list, just check it from time to time with web mail and see how long it takes to get spam on that account, if your right it will happen! But I bet you it will never get one email apart from the welcome one.

Valid and well put,

I am still curious to how these spam people have the address though, it is a question that should be answered for all our sakes, however I do accept that none seems to know or is willing to admit they do

[chopsmcp]

Originally Posted by MetaWraith

I have this nagging feeling at the back of my neck that the positive correlation in timing between various acrimonious events at NTL and the massive increase in spam may not have been a coincidence.

Yep - same here. The Wanadoo porn-dialler spammers who are currently trying to hit my inbox approximately 150 times a day just seem to have a huge list of ntl addies no other spammers have. Wouldn't be at all surprised if it was some kind of an inside job.

Also wouldn't be surprised if their spam blizzrd was behind the latest collapse of ntlworld's mail servers. When are they going to work out that providers with no server side filtering are going to attract spam at an exponential rate as other providers get their acts together?

[goldoni]

Anybody else getting this problem, over the last few days I have been getting a 5k email from a company that times out my NTL email account. The only way around it is log on with web mail and delete the mail and then all is well till the next time. Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢m using Outlook 2000 and dare I say Norton NAV both have been working fine until a few days ago.

[carlingman]

Originally Posted by goldoni

Anybody else getting this problem, over the last few days I have been getting a 5k email from a company that times out my NTL email account. The only way around it is log on with web mail and delete the mail and then all is well till the next time. Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢m using Outlook 2000 and dare I say Norton NAV both have been working fine until a few days ago.

Have you tried this -

Have you tried to telnet it as they may be an offending mail blocking your download etc.

To telnet it try the following -

To telnet the mail server:
Click onto Start then Run
type telnet pop.ntlworld.com 110 - press enter
+OK InterMail POP3 server ready.
type user then a space then your user.name - press enter
+OK please send PASS command
type pass then a space then your password - press enter
+OK user.name is welcome here

This logs you into the pop server.

type list.

Identify the mail you think is causing the problem and type DELE 1 or whichever number corresponds.

Then type quit to close the telnet connection.

That should then bin the offending mail.

Hope it helps.