the Big Brother thread !! - Page 22

TheBlueRaja · 17-06-2004, 19:16

Whoohoohoohooooo!!!

Thats some tasty footage.

Looking forward to tonights episode.

Russ · 17-06-2004, 19:34

I'm not condoning Victor's behaviour in any way at all but what I saw was Emma pushing him about - did she think he was just going to take it?

Jason was wrong to get nasty but Marco's queen-of-camp behaviour is starting to get SO annoying.

etccarmageddon · 17-06-2004, 19:41

Victor is all talk - a big girls blowse who couldnt even handle a cold shower.

punky · 17-06-2004, 19:52

Emma is really gobby. She's got to learn she can't wind up people like she normally does. Talk about mouth-all-mighty. I really used to like her, now I just wish she'd shut the hell up.

I don't blame Victor and Jason for losing it, they are saints for making it as far as they did. With s**t-stirrers like Emma and Marco (and to a lesser extent Michelle) trying to goad people into going off, you can hardly blame them.

Edit: Just seen the footage. It was really intense. It was a shame they flicked the cameras off the scene, but maybe it was for the best. It was crazy in there though, by the sound of it.

Seb · 18-06-2004, 11:55

Tonights eviction postponed... instead Vanessa and Dan eviction will happen next Firday

MovedGoalPosts · 18-06-2004, 12:27

Is it just me or does anybody else find connection to Channel 4s Big Brother web site extremely slow if not impossible to use?

I had this problem last year too. You'd think they would have upgraded the servers or bandwidth, or both

SMHarman · 18-06-2004, 14:43

the BB site is v slow here too.

I think the whole eviction postponement is a bad decision. They need to get some of the standard structure back to the house. Kicking out Vanessa, who is part of the devisiveness would also help.

C4 / BB are acting very irresponsibly with this bedsit IMHO.

basa · 20-06-2004, 11:50

Is it just me or does any one else think Emma's eviction stinks of racism ?

Victor threatened her and the security guards.

He assaulted Emma and she gets thrown out ??

Whatever the 'goading' - you don't threaten or assault women !!! He's just a mouthy self important thug !

Russ · 20-06-2004, 11:56

I don't think it was racist in the slightest. She was getting in his face and pushing him about (this is not justification for anything he might have done back at her, I hasten to add) and this IMO was asking for trouble. I also think Victor was being irresponsible by assuming her dislike of him was racism, but her eviction certainly was not race-based. She appears to be the sort of person who will get in someone's face and scream her opinions at them without stopping to consider the implications for one moment. In Victor's defense, he only seems to get worked up when someone has provoked him. This leaves Emma as being something of a loose cannon and IMO Endimol made the right decision to remove her.

All in all it means we're 3 weeks in and STILL no public-voted evictions!

SMHarman · 20-06-2004, 12:27

Emma started it if you watch the footage. Victors response was not the best, but personally if I had Emma in my face like that...

punky · 20-06-2004, 12:41

Although I do stand by Victor and Jason in all this, there are a couple of points:

1) People call Victor and Jason "thugs" and "unhinged bullies" for shouting at Marco et al., but they never hit anyone. Funnily enough, Vanessa hit Nadia (which prompted the security guards to come in, AFAIK), and noone cares. Also, Nadia hit Jason, but still noone cares. Everyone is trying to lump it all on Jason and Victor.

2) People say it is unfair that Emma should go and not Victor, etc, but there is a good reason for it. Remember back in the last one with Jade Goody? She was immensely stupid, had a very big mouth, no self control and no idea how to carry herself (much like a former housemate from this year). She spiralled down on to a path of self destruction and everyone blamed C4 and Endermol for keeping her in there and letting her destroy itself. Everyone, including her mum was asking for Jade to get pulled out but they refused. Now take Emma. She is so identical to Jade in so many ways. C4/Endermol probably thought they could throw out V and J and keep everyone happey, but leaving Emma in there would make things worse for her. It isn't just that though. Emma is so antagonistic, that she winds everyone up. Look at the house now with the so called "bullies". Noone is fighting, noone is scared, everything is happy without Emma stirring it.

Shaun · 20-06-2004, 15:07

Sorry Punky, Jason and Victor have the combined intelligence of a banana. They are both arrogant, self centered, and very annoying. I'd also say that Jason borders on creepy the way he keeps accosting Vanessa and tried to make sexual advances on her.

As for Emma, maybe she hasn't got a lot of self control, but many people wouldn't after being locked on a room for 5 odd days having to watch what others (who you thought were friends) were saying about you.

If anyone is to blame its C4/endamol. They were warned what could happen and yet they still did it. Their own criminologist warned then and when endamol took no notice they left, doesn't look good does it?

In all fairness both Emma and Victor should have been booted out, Emma had no self control over the way she acted and neither did Victor, at a push I'd say the same about Jason and Marco too.

aliferste · 20-06-2004, 15:37

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You guys have to seriously watch that BB EFourum tonight. Not only does it have Craig Charles in it, which is enough reason but that annoying Russell turned out to be a quality geezer. Kitten was annoying everyone, and he well and truely shut her up. She got upset and stormed out.

You lot seriously have to watch it.

Actually when i watched it I was appalled at the presenter. Kitten was not saying much at the presenter at one point said "SHUT UP" in her face when she did start talking. Im not surprised she stormed out, she was goaded into doing it.
Im disgusted at the presenter and the way he treated her!!

Russ · 20-06-2004, 18:17

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They are both arrogant, self centered, and very annoying.

Much the same could be said about Vanessa "I'm so beautiful no man is good enough for me" Nimmo.

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I'd also say that Jason borders on creepy the way he keeps accosting Vanessa and tried to make sexual advances on her.

That's hardly been one-way traffic has it?

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As for Emma, maybe she hasn't got a lot of self control, but many people wouldn't after being locked on a room for 5 odd days having to watch what others (who you thought were friends) were saying about you..

Michelle seemed to manage it.

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If anyone is to blame its C4/endamol. They were warned what could happen and yet they still did it. Their own criminologist warned then and when endamol took no notice they left, doesn't look good does it?

Now I agree with you there - the makers set it up this way.

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In all fairness both Emma and Victor should have been booted out, Emma had no self control over the way she acted and neither did Victor, at a push I'd say the same about Jason and Marco too.

Victor, the Snoop wannabe (or neverbe) has to go next!!

punky · 20-06-2004, 19:41

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Sorry Punky, Jason and Victor have the combined intelligence of a banana. They are both arrogant, self centered, and very annoying. I'd also say that Jason borders on creepy the way he keeps accosting Vanessa and tried to make sexual advances on her.

But at least they are fun with it. I love the little things Victor says. I do have some arrogant mates but they are funny to be around. Contrast that with the annoying screeching seal-boy and Emma. Which would you rather listen to 24 hours a day?

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As for Emma, maybe she hasn't got a lot of self control, but many people wouldn't after being locked on a room for 5 odd days having to watch what others (who you thought were friends) were saying about you.

It has happened to me before. I have over heard people (both deliberately and accidently) say things about me that wern't nice. I dealt with it without losing the plot like Emma. It was worse for me, because sometimes it was accidental. I had nothing to prepare me. Emma knew when she was gone Victor would let rip. Because someone says something bad about her, doesn't mean she should go off like that, it shows just how immature she is.

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If anyone is to blame its C4/endamol. They were warned what could happen and yet they still did it. Their own criminologist warned then and when endamol took no notice they left, doesn't look good does it?

Just giving the people what we want. Humans, as a whole, love fights and accidents and stuff.

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In all fairness both Emma and Victor should have been booted out, Emma had no self control over the way she acted and neither did Victor, at a push I'd say the same about Jason and Marco too.

Jason isn't unhinged. He uses the threat of violence to solve his problems, but he isn't off his head. I felt it was wrong that the ones that shouted (Emma, Victor, Jason) were punished harder than the people that actually did come to blows.

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Actually when I watched it I was appalled at the presenter. Kitten was not saying much at the presenter at one point said "SHUT UP" in her face when she did start talking. Im not surprised she stormed out, she was goaded into doing it.
Im disgusted at the presenter and the way he treated her!!

To be fair to him though, and I don't know if you know this, but she had been on every day that week, unlike the other panel members. She had been winding him up more and more each day and eventually he just got fed up with it. Thats why he kept jumping in to stop her before she went off on one again.

Come to think of it, does anyone know what the statement Kitten read out on C4? I caught the very end, but don't know what it read.