Babylon 5

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Mr Morden

"What do you want?"

I once considered getting a T-shirt made up with that wonderful pic of Morden's face (did anyone else notice that he was often lit with a slight "up-light" effect that makes someone look so evil?) and underneath the slogan:

Morden and Associates: Call 1-800-WHAT-DO-U-WANT?

Originally Posted by ZrByte

Kosh himself was never like his replacement though, he seemed gentler, as I said above I think he may have been thier leader or at least one of the oldest of the vorlons.
I awlays had a feeling they where going to elaborate on this slightly, the vorlon that replaced kosh is clearly the same vorlon that is with Kosh in Dukats quarters in the movie 'In The Beggining' I was wondering if maybe there are two sides to a vorlon (A dark and a light) and the Kosh on B5 was the light side, wich kept them in balance, when the light was killed all that was left was the dark side wich is why the new Vorlon was kinda crazy. (just an idea but I would have liked to have seen some more insight into why the new vorlon was so mad)

The reason that Kosh's replacement was so awful was because the Vorlons interceding on Sheridans request led to Kosh dying.This meant in turn that the Shadows were on to the influence of the Vorlons and thus the 1000 year 'peace' between the races was off.Then the REAL nature of both species was then revealed in the totally ruthless behaviour of the 'new' Kosh in dealing with everyone and the way the Shadows stepped up the annexing of planets.It was this change that partly allowed Sheridan to really discover what was at stake and to come up with a way of finally persuading both species that it was time the younger races decided their own fate.

Incog

[ZrByte]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

The reason that Kosh's replacement was so awful was because the Vorlons interceding on Sheridans request led to Kosh dying.This meant in turn that the Shadows were on to the influence of the Vorlons and thus the 1000 year 'peace' between the races was off.Then the REAL nature of both species was then revealed in the totally ruthless behaviour of the 'new' Kosh in dealing with everyone and the way the Shadows stepped up the annexing of planets.It was this change that partly allowed Sheridan to really discover what was at stake and to come up with a way of finally persuading both species that it was time the younger races decided their own fate.

Incog

This vorlon behaves in a similar fashion in the movie 'In The Beggining' and that is set more than 12 years before Kosh dies, this Vorlon always seems more agressive whenever it speaks.

Originally Posted by In The beggining

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Delenn - Are you a Vorlon?? (Inquisitivley)
Kosh - Yes (Calmly)
Ulkesh - Yes (aggresivley)
Delenn - What is your name??
Kosh - Kosh
Ulkesh - Silent pause looks towards Kosh

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Kosh - The truth points to itself
Delenn - What??
Kosh - Repeats, slightly more clearly, The truth points to itself
Delenn - I do not understand (Confused)
Ulkesh - You will (sounds slightly irritated by Delenn not understanding)
Delenn - But...
Ulkesh - Snaps at Delenn GO NOW!!
Kosh - GO!! then gently says Before it's too late.

Just as an example what I mean though I do agree with the rest you said.

Note: Even though Ulkesh says its name is Kosh it is actually credited as Ulkesh so I figured I would use that name to make it clearer.

But "We are all Kosh"

Of course "I have always been here" too...!

[Tezcatlipoca]

This thread contains the majority of the B5 posts from the ST:Enterprise thread, which Pem has split from the ST:E thread

[there may still be the odd ST post in this & the odd B5 post in the ST:E thread though, due to the problems of trying to split a thread which was as mixed as the ST:E thread]

So, post away

[ZrByte]

Originally Posted by Tezcatlipoca

This thread contains the majority of the B5 posts from the ST:Enterprise thread, which Pem has split from the ST:E thread

[there may still be the odd ST post in this & the odd B5 post in the ST:E thread though, due to the problems of trying to split a thread which was as mixed as the ST:E thread]

So, post away

Thanks, we did kinda Hijack the Enterprise thread though I notice you forgot to copy over the posts about Richard Biggs untimley death.

Originally Posted by ZrByte

...... though I notice you forgot to copy over the posts about Richard Biggs untimley death.

No I didn't - you just missed them > http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=12975

If I remember my rumour's correctly. The reason Crusade did'nt get a second season, was because of wrangling between the production company and Fox (I think). Basically, they spent so much time arguing about the story arc that a number of the actors contracts ran put, so they went on to other projects. Leaving a promising show to die.

Bloody Fox.

[Richard M]

Do they still make this???
Wow, I remember when it started, they used Amiga 4000s to create the special effects.

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze

If I remember my rumour's correctly. The reason Crusade did'nt get a second season, was because of wrangling between the production company and Fox (I think). Basically, they spent so much time arguing about the story arc that a number of the actors contracts ran put, so they went on to other projects. Leaving a promising show to die.

Bloody Fox.

It wouldn't surprise me. Fox likes to mess with good shows, it also likes to cancel them.

Originally Posted by Richard M

Do they still make this???

Nope

Babylon 5 ran for only five years - but this length was planned originally by its creator, J Michael Straczynski (sp?) (he wrote a proper 5 year story arc, rather than just make it up as he went along).

It has had a few different TV movies, set before & after the original B5 series.

There was also a shortlived spin-off series, called Crusade. I think there may have been plans for another too.

Wow, I remember when it started, they used Amiga 4000s to create the special effects.

LOL, yeah. A4000s running Video Toasters IIRC.

[ZrByte]

Originally Posted by Pem

No I didn't - you just missed them > http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=12975

Oh I see, it got a new home of its own silly Me