MCSE 2000 Certification?

[Caspar]

Originally Posted by Stuart W

Hmm.... MCSE....

The company I've bought it from deliver the course via CDROM and online. They claim to have tutors to help me and answer questions, not to teach me content I do that form their text and visual materials. I already work in the eLearning field (online learning) and am confortable with the medium

Thanks for the warning tho , and it reminded me of a guy I met in in Waterstones book store. He basically saw I was looking as MS cert books and started prodding me for information, he then told me was a classroom tutor teaching MCSEs, he gave me his number and offered me a place.... didn't get the costs tho..he said that wasn't his dept, he simply teaches his company does the finance (seems dead dodgy writing this now! ).

[Caspar]

Originally Posted by Richard M

I've no idea which qualifications you've got but you might be better off doing a BTEC type of course, or maybe specialising in database stuff or Linux.
I'm going for the BTEC route myself, one in Computing Studies and one in programming:
http://www.richardm.co.uk/blog/archives/000029.html

I've already got a HND and a Degree in Computer Science so I think doing the MCSE is a good level



One question I've not asked is which O/s I should do!!! MCSE for 2000 or 2003?

[Tricky]

More Cash Swift Exit (at least that's what I did when I got mine)
Word of warning many employers ignore them now to easy to just "pass" the exam by cramming past test questions
Go for the 2003 route as the 2000 route will expire shortly after mainstream support for the OS (mid 2005)
2003 Server exams will be more focused on security which will also stand up well for any prospective employer

[Caspar]

I don't like the idea of sitting an exam that will expire only next year I'll go for the 2003 route, thanks

Originally Posted by Caspar

Improving my skills, CV and personal ambition

Improving your skills & personal ambition are good reasons

TBH it won't make much difference on a CV these days.

[tkiely]

Caspar,

good luck with your studies. It's true that an MCSE is not the passport to a job like it used to be but you will come out of it with a good grounding in MS tech and a greatly enhanced feeling of confidence.

Personally I gave up the MCP route after my NT4 cert. These days you seem to be always playing catchup, or should that be payup?

I work for an IT security company and have to recruit systems engineers. We always used to insist on an MCSE but have recently found that it doesnt guarantee the best candidates. We now use our own short test which without being rocket science does weed out the weaker candidates. What really hits home is when the guys/gals turn upfor interview with their shiny 2000 MCSE and then display absolutely no idea about either NT or 2003. We develop software for a market where a huge percentage of people still use NT, so we need that knowledge in our people.

If you can, get as much practical experience under your belt as poss while doing the exams. That combination definately will open doors.

Again, good luck and above all, enjoy it while you are learning.

Terry

[Millay]

Hi all

I am going to enrol in september in my A+ course, my local college do it for £179

they also offer MCSE course for £400 which I am going to do after my A+.

The interesting thing is I have been working in the IT industry for almost 10 years now, and have never really done any courses but never found it a stop to getting a job, I always find that companies prefer to test you during interview.

Im doing the courses now for my own progression and so that I can put my self taugh nowledge into some kind of order!

[imback]

Hi guys, after seeing this thread today, it re sparked my thoughts on learnign something new, but not for any other reaosn than to earn more money.

So having very little experience in terms of qualifications, I am looking for advice on what kind of course and what kind of areas within IT are worth considering.

Like a lot of people I know a bit about PC's but it's all self taught and so no employer will look at me.

Have been looking at this site http://www.nitlc.com/CourseMCSE.aspx

[nighthawk]

Originally Posted by imback

Hi guys, after seeing this thread today, it re sparked my thoughts on learnign something new, but not for any other reaosn than to earn more money.

So having very little experience in terms of qualifications, I am looking for advice on what kind of course and what kind of areas within IT are worth considering.

Like a lot of people I know a bit about PC's but it's all self taught and so no employer will look at me.

Have been looking at this site http://www.nitlc.com/CourseMCSE.aspx

Same course i have just enroled on.. Seems to be quite a comprehensive one as it includes you MOUS, A+, MCSA, CCNA & MCSE.

However it is not cheap, i convinced my work to put me on it as i could not afford the £3900 course fee

[Caspar]

Blimey nighthawk! that'll keep you busy for a few years!!!

I've been told that my online delivery of MCSE 2000 (I've since updated it to MCSE 2003) has between 250 and 280 hours of learning.

They've also bundled for free the A+ and some additional course material, not too sure what as I got as I became a tad overloaded! Includes something called 'eRouters', anyone heard of it?

I've spoken to my brother who knows a few people who've gone thru the MCSE route, one guy did it in 18 months, which is a shocker to me! I fancy doing it at max 1 year!!! !

Good luck with your studies nighthawk

[nighthawk]

Thansk Casper... i think ill need it The company has put me on a Max 2 year time linit. At the same time i am also about to start learning SQL... so the next 2 years should be fun

[Caspar]

SQL Server 2000 is good fun

..since we're both doing an MCSE now, maybe we shd swat together!

[skyblueheroes]

Originally Posted by Caspar

SQL Server 2000 is good fun

..since we're both doing an MCSE now, maybe we shd swat together!

Is that what they call it these days............

[Caspar]

you're just jealous!!!

[imback]

Originally Posted by nighthawk

Same course i have just enroled on.. Seems to be quite a comprehensive one as it includes you MOUS, A+, MCSA, CCNA & MCSE.

However it is not cheap, i convinced my work to put me on it as i could not afford the £3900 course fee

Yeah it's expenisve for sure but as it's a govermant recognised qualification you can can an interest free loan to pay for it, can't see NTL paying me though is some how :pp

So it's worth doing? Would I be taking on too much?