Star Trek : Enterprise

Originally Posted by philip.j.fry

Sunset Beach and Crossroads ended that way

And an entire series of Dynasty ... or was it Dallas? or Dallastey? one of those, anyway...

[bob_builder]

Originally Posted by towny

then they woke up and it was all a dream... isn't that how an average piece of creative writing produced by classes of seven-year-olds usually finish up?

A whole Enterprise episode story was almost like that - the one where Hoshi got caught in transporter limbo.

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by bob_builder

A whole Enterprise episode story was almost like that - the one where Hoshi got caught in transporter limbo.

You can almost see the writers of Year Of Hell (from Voyager) rubbing their hands in glee.....

'Muwa ha ha ha ha - lets turn enterpruse into a 4yr 'year of hell'' series

[bob_builder]

Originally Posted by ZrByte

funny how all my fav SciFi moments are from B5 and all my least favourite are from Startrek, yet when they where both still airing I would have considdered myself more of a trekie then a B5'er (though I have always said that B5 had a more realistic outlook of the future, even if it is a more depressing outlook)

Conversely, I have never thought of myself as a Trekie but was definitely a B5'er (even getting the DVD box-sets now)! I used to watch Star Trek "Whatever" if it happened to be on but never watched the whole of a series like I did with B5.
However, Enterprise is that little bit different from the rest of ST and I have not yet missed an episode! I think it might be that it seems much more realistic (less utopian) and you get fight scenes down dark corridors!

[ZrByte]

Originally Posted by bob_builder

Conversely, I have never thought of myself as a Trekie but was definitely a B5'er (even getting the DVD box-sets now)! I used to watch Star Trek "Whatever" if it happened to be on but never watched the whole of a series like I did with B5.
However, Enterprise is that little bit different from the rest of ST and I have not yet missed an episode! I think it might be that it seems much more realistic (less utopian) and you get fight scenes down dark corridors!

When you think about Enterprise it is very B5'esq.
I enjoyed the first season and the beggining of season 2, I just got bored part way into season 2, the story seemed to drift off with too many pointless episodes wich contributed nothing to the main story.

[bob_builder]

Originally Posted by ZrByte

When you think about Enterprise it is very B5'esq.
I enjoyed the first season and the beggining of season 2, I just got bored part way into season 2, the story seemed to drift off with too many pointless episodes wich contributed nothing to the main story.

I liked B5's main arc running through the whole story. Even when episodes appeared to be standalone stories they contributed something to the main arc. One thing that struck me when rewatching the first series of B5, recently, was how many little things point towards the end of the fifth season even though, on their own, they appear to have no relevance at all, almost background noise.
Enterprise does seem to be similar to this, especially this season with the season long Xindi arc.

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by bob_builder

I liked B5's main arc running through the whole story. Even when episodes appeared to be standalone stories they contributed something to the main arc. One thing that struck me when rewatching the first series of B5 recently was how many little things pont towards the end of the fifth season even though on there own that appear to have no relevance at all, almost background noise.
Enterprise does seem to be similar to this, especially this season with the season long Xindi arc.

I'm sitting here looking at my (so far 3) box sets of B5 - and am about half way through season 2.....

It makes a lot more sense finally watching them in order.

And they were only 25.99 per set - compare that to the Star Trek sets

[Jerrek]

Can't they just start a new series that plays off in the future, say, 300 years from Voyager?

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Jerrek

Can't they just start a new series that plays off in the future, say, 300 years from Voyager?

Well, if the utopian underlying factor continued, the whole galaxy would be within the federation by then, and even the borg would be open to group hugs.
Not very interesting, it would end up just being a futuristic version of TNG (and unless they can get actors as good as TNG or writers/directors it will flop)
Or they have something serious happen which wipes out the federation and then the only purpose of the show would be to rebuild the federation, oh wait, that's andromeda.
I think they've bled the Star Trek genre dry of ideas for a long time.

[deadite66]

perhaps they should dump the federation and do it from the klingons or romulans viewpoint next.

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

I'm sitting here looking at my (so far 3) box sets of B5 - and am about half way through season 2.....

It makes a lot more sense finally watching them in order.

And they were only 25.99 per set - compare that to the Star Trek sets

Where did you manage to track them down at that price?

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by dr wadd

Where did you manage to track them down at that price?

www.choicesdirect.co.uk

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by deadite66

perhaps they should dump the federation and do it from the klingons or romulans viewpoint next.

Could be interesting, but in the Star Trek universe, they are portrayed as conquerers rather than explorers.
10 "Captain there's an unknown ship off to port"
20 "Lock on disruptors and blast it"
30 GOTO 10

Ditch Star Trek, bring back Firefly and make a go of the legend of the rangers too for us B5 people

Originally Posted by deadite66

perhaps they should dump the federation and do it from the klingons or romulans viewpoint next.

I'd personally find a series based on the Romulans more interesting. While there has been some political chicanery within the Klingon Empire, I think the backstabbing nature of the Romulans would make for a more interesting theme.

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

www.choicesdirect.co.uk

Thanks for that, looks like it's time to get seasons 2 to 4.