Carr out by the end of the week!

they where returned, it looks more like a car theft than a appempt to get the papers. how would they know?

[andygrif]

Maybe you will all accuse me of being a consipiracy theorist here, but hear me out:

What are the chances of someone trying to steal the very car where these papers were?

What is the chance that the driver of the car would leave his documents in the car?

OK, it could be a co-incidence, granted - but is it?

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by andygrif

Maybe you will all accuse me of being a consipiracy theorist here, but hear me out:

What are the chances of someone trying to steal the very car where these papers were?

What is the chance that the driver of the car would leave his documents in the car?

OK, it could be a co-incidence, granted - but is it?

You didn't just watch a program on ch4 did you?

Originally Posted by andygrif

Maybe you will all accuse me of being a consipiracy theorist here, but hear me out:

What are the chances of someone trying to steal the very car where these papers were?

What is the chance that the driver of the car would leave his documents in the car?

OK, it could be a co-incidence, granted - but is it?

I think you are being a conspiracy theorist here

Seriously, you can spot a conspiracy theory - lots of leading questions but very little in the way of proof. There is such a fever of speculation, and even a touch of moral outrage, around Carr at the moment that just about anything seems plausible.

[andygrif]

Originally Posted by towny

I think you are being a conspiracy theorist here

Seriously, you can spot a conspiracy theory - lots of leading questions but very little in the way of proof. There is such a fever of speculation, and even a touch of moral outrage, around Carr at the moment that just about anything seems plausible.

Actually normally I'm the first to criticise conspiracy theories - but this all seems a little too obvious. Having worked in the media for many years, I know the way that these things can work - journalists and governments do deals to leak this kind of stuff at the top level. As the most basic, say the guy who's car it was felt strongly about the subject - it's been known to give the nod to a paper or journo that the information is going to be at a certain place at a certain time. This could be purely for monetary reasons or just what he might feel (somewhat misguidedly in my opinion) to be the 'right' thing to do.

It's all just a little too convenient that this information has fallen into the public domain. Also the thing about the papers being 'found dumped' on Hampstead Heath - this is classic journalist disposal method. I mean, any normal person would burn them, shred them, bury them in the garden, etc!!

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by andygrif

Having worked in the media for many years, I know the way that these things can work - journalists and governments do deals to leak this kind of stuff at the top level.

Actually, this is but you have just reminded me on an interview I heard with Max Clifford years ago. Now, I don't trust the man (he gives me the creeps for some reason), but he did say one thing that interested me. Remember all the fuss about Antonia De Sanchez and David Mellor (Toe sucking/Chelsea strip etc)? Apparently he was hired to leak that by the Government. He was never told officially why, but unofficially, he heard a rumour that it was to throw the media off the scent of something else the Government was doing at the time.

Maybe that has happened here, although, like all good conspiracy theories, I doubt we will ever hear the truth if that's the case.

[xaq141175]

Originally Posted by andygrif

Maybe you will all accuse me of being a consipiracy theorist here, but hear me out: What are the chances of someone trying to steal the very car where these papers were? What is the chance that the driver of the car would leave his documents in the car? OK, it could be a co-incidence, granted - but is it?

I certainly would not put it past some **** journalist to pay some dumb sucker to get a copy of the papers. Even though the information would immediatly be worthless once stolen, it would still give the journalist a detailed insight into how the police arrange a new identity ... and I just wonder which publication would want that info, NOT.

I hope that Carr gets to live in peace from now on and screw those low brow knuckkle draggers who are themselves a far greater threat to our society than Carr could ever be.

Originally Posted by andygrif

Actually normally I'm the first to criticise conspiracy theories - but this all seems a little too obvious. Having worked in the media for many years, I know the way that these things can work - journalists and governments do deals to leak this kind of stuff at the top level. As the most basic, say the guy who's car it was felt strongly about the subject - it's been known to give the nod to a paper or journo that the information is going to be at a certain place at a certain time. This could be purely for monetary reasons or just what he might feel (somewhat misguidedly in my opinion) to be the 'right' thing to do.

It's all just a little too convenient that this information has fallen into the public domain. Also the thing about the papers being 'found dumped' on Hampstead Heath - this is classic journalist disposal method. I mean, any normal person would burn them, shred them, bury them in the garden, etc!!

I would think a normal person is much more likely to dispose of the documents in the way that happened. Once they saw what they had they would want to rid their hands of it straight away.

ON the other hand this COULD be a promotion/storyline for the forthcoming 2nd series of state of play......

I see according to some reports a group has threatened to "kill her within six days" when she is released.

Originally Posted by Pem

I see according to some reports a group has threatened to "kill her within six days" when she is released.

You would think the mirror has had enough bad publicity wouldn't you?

[Nikko]

Originally Posted by Damien

You would think the mirror has had enough bad publicity wouldn't you?

very astute - anyone else would keep a low profile for a while - I suspect they won't