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Old 11-05-2004, 08:06   #16
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Re: Carr out by the end of the week!

Perhaps she should dye her hair Blonde to match her stupidity

The fact that she actually had nothing to do with Huntleys act has nowt to do with it, there are enough hotheads out there that will want to cause her grief anyway. Unfortunately we are now going to be paying for her protection from them. She should move away & assume another identity.
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Old 11-05-2004, 11:52   #17
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the Fact of the matter is the uk is so unsafe for her the cops will have to move her to other Country hopefully outside the eu
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:16   #18
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the Fact of the matter is the uk is so unsafe for her the cops will have to move her to other Country hopefully outside the eu
Hopefully outside the EU? So, as far away from you as possible, is that what you're saying? I hope you realise that that kind of attitude is what is causing the problem here.
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:20   #19
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Re: Carr out by the end of the week!

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the Fact of the matter is the uk is so unsafe for her the cops will have to move her to other Country hopefully outside the eu
The UK itself should not be unsafe - while I accept that feelings run high about Maxine Carr, I feel that a lot of people understand that her part in what happened in Soham was minimal. As has been said elsewhere in this thread, we unfortunately live in a culture where certain members of society will be up in arms about the fact that she is being released, even though she has served the sentence that was handed down in a court of law.

As for her being moved to another country - why exactly? As I said in one of my earlier posts, Maxine Carr is as entitled to her freedom as any other member of this democratic country - she was given the choice of taking a new identity and has refused it (as is her right). This kind of statement doesn't exactly help - are you saying that you'd rather she was further away from you? Again, I emphasise that she has served her time and is now entitled to be released and live where she chooses, not the hate mobs.
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Maxine Carr is guilty of extreme stupidity. She did not kill anyone, she did not plan to kill anyone and she was not an accessory to killing anyone. She will shortly have done her time and has the same right as anyone else in this country to try to put it behind her and get on with her life.
Well put. That's what I've maintained.
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Hopefully outside the EU? So, as far away from you as possible, is that what you're saying? I hope you realise that that kind of attitude is what is causing the problem here.
for her own safety away from the angry british public who may do her harm let me make it clear i do think she has a right to live any where she likes in peace but her Actions are going to have consequences that she surely know whan lieing
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Hopefully outside the EU? So, as far away from you as possible, is that what you're saying? I hope you realise that that kind of attitude is what is causing the problem here.
I don't think it is SDA that is making the country unsafe for her - at least I hope not - but it's the readers of the red-tops, who getted whipped up into a storm at the slightest piece of tabloid-journalism printed.

It is wrong, it should not happen - if we were all thinking with level heads, we would see that she comitted a crime - she did not murder anyone, but she did perjure herself (like I said yesterday to what extent we'll never really know, but that's irrelevant now). She was convicted of the crime she comitted, she served her sentance according to the statute books, and now she's coming out.

But - and this is the key here - for those not able, through no fault of their own, to think in this level headed manner they will always associate her with with the killing of two young girls. We can't change it, no matter how incorrect it may be - it's the way it is.

The question now needing to be asked is how much this will cost us. She will need protection, I don't have a problem with that - but at what cost? And how long should we be expected to pay for the protection of someone who lied to cover up a murder?
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But - and this is the key here - for those not able, through no fault of their own, to think in this level headed manner they will always associate her with with the killing of two young girls. We can't change it, no matter how incorrect it may be - it's the way it is.

The question now needing to be asked is how much this will cost us. She will need protection, I don't have a problem with that - but at what cost? And how long should we be expected to pay for the protection of someone who lied to cover up a murder?
For as long as those who have been whipped up into a frenzy by the Red Top papers are a threat to her.

If you have a problem with that, take it up with said Red Top papers, because *they* are the ones who are *responsible* for her needing that protection which is coming out of *your* tax money.
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It's not the papoers that are the problem - it's the readers.
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Re: Carr out by the end of the week!

not a paper reader here but in my book a good 10 years inside would have been good for her, she has been uncovered as a habitual lier, she protected a murderer, yes she did not commit the crime, but i still think because of her track record (now uncovered) she should have been kept inside longer...

yes im harsh, but the laws in this country do no justice.
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Re: Carr out by the end of the week!

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It's not the papoers that are the problem - it's the readers.
I disagree. The papers can influence the publics opinion to a huge extent. If they wanted to, they could rally round Carr and make things a lot safer for her.
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Re: Carr out by the end of the week!

A recent quote published by "the sun" and quoted elsewhere...

" Carr - the most hated woman in Britain"

That comment was tantamount to incitement in my opinion.

Can anyone explain to me please... How is the public interest served by hounding this woman?

The press should be bound by court order to leave her alone.( oh and before there any cries of " freedom of the press " please answer my question above )
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Can anyone explain to me please... How is the public interest served by hounding this woman?
the quote does indeed incite negative behaviour towards her but its deserved, i personally think where ever she goes she will be uncovered to be there by the tabloids.
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A recent quote published by "the sun" and quoted elsewhere...

" Carr - the most hated woman in Britain"

That comment was tantamount to incitement in my opinion.

Can anyone explain to me please... How is the public interest served by hounding this woman?

The press should be bound by court order to leave her alone.( oh and before there any cries of " freedom of the press " please answer my question above )
It's a chicken and egg situation....whilst not specifically in the public interest it may be representative of a public opinion.

I agree about a court order - I don't think the law will allow for this, although it could exclude the papers giving any indications as to where she is.

I'm not saying that the paper is right in what it's doing, but they are no specifically saying that their readers should do anything about it.

Personally I would prefer to have the facts reported. She's being released, etc etc - I can make up my own mind as to whether I like her or not.
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Re: Carr out by the end of the week!

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not a paper reader here but in my book a good 10 years inside would have been good for her, she has been uncovered as a habitual lier, she protected a murderer, yes she did not commit the crime, but i still think because of her track record (now uncovered) she should have been kept inside longer...

yes im harsh, but the laws in this country do no justice.
A little too harsh I think.

Whilst I understand your opinion that sheââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s an habitual liar (as a result of the Benefit fraud charges etc), it still doesnââ‚ÆšÂ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t change the fact that she was (at the time) †˜onlyâÃà ‚¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ found guilty of perverting the course of justice and, as a result, was sentenced appropriately †“ you canââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t use the argument of a now uncovered track record to say that she should be locked up for years, as it had no relevance to the case in point.

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the quote does indeed incite negative behaviour towards her but its deserved, i personally think where ever she goes she will be uncovered to be there by the tabloids.
I think this is why Julian is saying about a court order - if the papers are bound by the law not to reveal where she is, then they can't (whether this happens or not though remains to be seen).


Sorry if you disagree Kronas †“ Iââ‚ ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢m not trying to start an argument and, as ever, this is purely IMHO.
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