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Old 04-05-2004, 22:26   #1
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Splitting Broadband cable again!

Hi all,

I was thinking about splitting my broadband line but instead of just have a tv coxial plug for putting directly into my video card I was thinking about using a Jerrold box.

Is this possible? Oh and if this has been answered before sorry.

Thanks all

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Old 04-05-2004, 23:55   #2
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Re: Splitting Broadband cable again!

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Hi all,

I was thinking about splitting my broadband line but instead of just have a tv coxial plug for putting directly into my video card I was thinking about using a Jerrold box.

Is this possible? Oh and if this has been answered before sorry.

Thanks all

May I ask where the jerrold box came from?
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Old 05-05-2004, 01:37   #3
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Re: Splitting Broadband cable again!

Might be wasting my time but just to mention splitting your cable modem's coax feed is against terms of service and technically vandalism - ntl always try and give seperate feeds for broadband and TV for a pretty good reaon, interference, and that coax and the modem that connect to it belong to ntl.

I would politely ask that you and any other people who consider doing this don't - if your cable feed is sub-optimal you will lose cable modem service, and if plugging the split coax into equipment which isn't up to spec, such as a TV card, you may be introducing interference onto the cable plant which will in large enough quantities harm your service and those of others. The cable and TV feeds can have seperate frequency filters to reduce this ingress interference. This is what happens when DIY work goes wrong: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=11786

Pretty please with sugar on top, if you want TV get a seperate feed. Also using Jerrold boxes bought on ebay is a criminal offence, those boxes are ntl / Telewest property.

Wow, criminal damage, vandalism and theft all in one pop from splitting a coax cable and plugging an ebay bought decoder in.
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Old 05-05-2004, 10:05   #4
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Re: Splitting Broadband cable again!

Actually there are circumstances where people can quite legally own one of the old Jerrold boxes:

1. In the bad/good old days you were given the option to buy your analogue receiver. You would have cheaper TV line-rental as a result.

2. If the CATV company did not collect the goods within a certain period of time after cancelation, then the goods could be seen as passing ownership to the ex-customer. I'm not sure how long it is, but I have an idea it would be six months after termination.

So therefore, if I owned the goods, I am free to trade them as I like. As long as the buyer doesn't tell me he's going to use them illegally then I have comitted no crime.
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Re: Splitting Broadband cable again!

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Might be wasting my time but just to mention splitting your cable modem's coax feed is against terms of service and technically vandalism - ntl always try and give seperate feeds for broadband and TV for a pretty good reaon, interference, and that coax and the modem that connect to it belong to ntl.
Unless you have an STB which does the TV & BB in one

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I would politely ask that you and any other people who consider doing this don't - if your cable feed is sub-optimal you will lose cable modem service, and if plugging the split coax into equipment which isn't up to spec, such as a TV card, you may be introducing interference onto the cable plant which will in large enough quantities harm your service and those of others. The cable and TV feeds can have seperate frequency filters to reduce this ingress interference. This is what happens when DIY work goes wrong: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=11786
Drifting slightly When ntl install they simply drilled a hole through the outside wall of my house and I had a nice cable draped around the edge of my skirting. Subsequently, and this is now years ago (in fact in the Cable & Wireless days) I rewired my house. In the process I tidied up the ntl cable by rerouting it under the floorboards and into a wall channel, removing the fitted connector and then making a new connection to a satellite type wall socket. Was this "against the T&Cs". And more the the point if it was, was I expected to get an engineer out to reroute the cable, when I was perfectly capable of doing so myself, and indeed did because it's worked fine for years?
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Re: Splitting Broadband cable again!

Me too. In fact a CSR incorrectly told me it was OK to extend it myself.
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Re: Splitting Broadband cable again!

Is the Jerrold not analogue?
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Re: Splitting Broadband cable again!

Jerrold was the brand name for CATV products from GI (General Instrument). As far as I know ntl only ever had them for analogue products.
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Re: Splitting Broadband cable again!

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Jerrold was the brand name for CATV products from GI (General Instrument). As far as I know ntl only ever had them for analogue products.
Many, many moons ago (CWC, possibly even dating back before that), there was such a beast as the General Instruments Maestro, a digital box that would only receive radio channels. I think there were less than 40 customers using them, though. I've certainly never encountered one in my time with the company.
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Re: Splitting Broadband cable again!

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Is the Jerrold not analogue?
An amp is an amp. Most amps are analoge. As long as you don't end up clipping the wave form you won't have a problem amplifying a digital signal.
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Old 05-05-2004, 20:57   #11
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Re: Splitting Broadband cable again!

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the advice, i think on second thoughts its not something I am going to try!

As for where i got the jerrold box, I was planning to move one from another area of my house, wouldn't even know how to get one apart from Ntl!

Thanks for the help

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Old 06-05-2004, 07:12   #12
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Re: Splitting Broadband cable again!

I still view cable TV on my old black jerrold box that the previous company supplied us with. I wonder how long its been in use for now, 7 or 8 years maybe? i cant remember. the remote control resembles the red taped one out of "The Royal Ramily" TV show though
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Re: Splitting Broadband cable again!

IMO the black Jerrold boxes are far superior to the Pace Digital boxes.

Far less lockups & you can heat your dinner on them
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