Pop signers MIME? No way!

[TigaSefi]

Nirvana's TOTP was indeed repeated on TOTP2 on a Friday at some point

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by kronas

hold on a moment... these people are 'pop singers' there job is to sing ?

Depends if you look on them as singers or entertainers.. I've always thought of Britney as an entertainer that just happens to sing.

[kronas]

Originally Posted by scastle

Depends if you look on them as singers or entertainers.. I've always thought of Britney as an entertainer that just happens to sing.

well that is to be debateable.......but looking at it the music/lyrics is what its about primarily.........

Originally Posted by scastle

I have to admit. I was at the Britney Spears concert on Monday, and I have two points. First, it didn't look like Britney was miming, although it would have been difficult for her to sing some of the songs live.

My other point is that whether she sung live or not, I enoyed the concert. The rest of the crowd appeared to enjoy it as well. Surely that is the main thing?

I take your point, stu, but apart from the obvious experience of 'being there', if they ain't going to perform live, you might as well just watch a video.

- I guess I'm showing my age, having grown up in an era where most acts had to establish themselves on the live circuit, before they could even hope to get a recording contract - and several like the Stones, David Bowie, Elton John are still able to do it.

[kronas]

Originally Posted by homealone

- I guess I'm showing my age, having grown up in an era where most acts had to establish themselves on the live circuit, before they could even hope to get a recording contract - and several like the Stones, David Bowie, Elton John are still able to do it.

the diffarence is the ever present commercialistic aspect of the music industry in the current era, i mean given the likes of 'eamon' getting to the top of the charts really does show an overall decline in the music industry's standards over the years, we have a mixture of genres, but still the creation of artists is propergated by record labels, based on technological advances to change the sound of a voice........you see what im getting at ?

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by homealone

I take your point, stu, but apart from the obvious experience of 'being there', if they ain't going to perform live, you might as well just watch a video.

- I guess I'm showing my age, having grown up in an era where most acts had to establish themselves on the live circuit, before they could even hope to get a recording contract - and several like the Stones, David Bowie, Elton John are still able to do it.

Video just doesn't have the same impact.. I have to admit, I do see the big special effect laden tours (such as Britney, Micheal Jackson etc) more as "shows" than live concerts. Having said that, the two aren't mutally exclusive. For instance Jean-Michel Jarre is very talented, performs live and has special effects laden shows (yes, I saw him live at Wembley and it was brilliant). I have also seen concerts where there have been little or no special effects, and somebody singing live. These are good too.

One example of this is when I saw the Pet Shop Boys (not a group that you normally expect to see live) perform Always on my mind. I knew at some point that they would do Always on my mind, and was expecting a big show to back it up. Most of the other songs were performed with the big special effects sort of thing. When he sung Always on my mind, Neil Tennent came on stage, sat down with a guitar and a microphone and accompanied himself on the guitar. It was brilliant.

Originally Posted by scastle

Video just doesn't have the same impact.. I have to admit, I do see the big special effect laden tours (such as Britney, Micheal Jackson etc) more as "shows" than live concerts. Having said that, the two aren't mutally exclusive. For instance Jean-Michel Jarre is very talented, performs live and has special effects laden shows (yes, I saw him live at Wembley and it was brilliant). I have also seen concerts where there have been little or no special effects, and somebody singing live. These are good too.

One example of this is when I saw the Pet Shop Boys (not a group that you normally expect to see live) perform Always on my mind. I knew at some point that they would do Always on my mind, and was expecting a big show to back it up. Most of the other songs were performed with the big special effects sort of thing. When he sung Always on my mind, Neil Tennent came on stage, sat down with a guitar and a microphone and accompanied himself on the guitar. It was brilliant.

I do take your point about the idea of it being a 'show' and I appreciate that the production on some of the material makes it very difficult to do a 'proper' live performance - singing & dancing at the same time, has already been mentioned as one reason, Jean-Michel JarrÃÃâ€*’© doesn't 'shake his booty' , that much

- I have to admit the Brittany kind of show doesn't really appeal to me, so I am being a little prejudiced in my opinion The last live band I saw was the Fun Loving Criminals

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by homealone

I do take your point about the idea of it being a 'show' and I appreciate that the production on some of the material makes it very difficult to do a 'proper' live performance - singing & dancing at the same time, has already been mentioned as one reason, Jean-Michel JarrÃÃâ€*’© doesn't 'shake his booty' , that much

Actually, you'd be surprised just how much JMJ does manage to shake his booty.

- I have to admit the Brittany kind of show doesn't really appeal to me, so I am being a little prejudiced in my opinion The last live band I saw was the Fun Loving Criminals

Actually, I find I enjoy both kinds of performance, as long as they are well done (for instance, I wouldn't rate Micheal Jackson much as a live singer, but the show when I saw him at Wembley was amazing, so I still enjoyed it. On the flip side, I saw Jools Holland last year. The performance was entirely live, and he had no show to hide behind, but it was also a a great concert.

Madonna was a big surprise. She did the big show thing, but could also sing live, which I really wasn't expecting.

I think that music should be about the music and talentless signers are taking money from proper music

[Julian]

Originally Posted by Damien

I think that music should be about the music and talentless signers are taking money from proper music

They are taking money from kids who are buying a well marketed package.

and think of what those kids could buy with that money! like drugs!

[Julian]

Originally Posted by Damien

and think of what those kids could buy with that money! like drugs!

So we should thank the "music" moguls.

Although a misguided minority will unfortunately do both.

[Jarandco]

Originally Posted by scastle

I have to admit. I was at the Britney Spears concert on Monday, and I have two points. First, it didn't look like Britney was miming, although it would have been difficult for her to sing some of the songs live.

My other point is that whether she sung live or not, I enoyed the concert. The rest of the crowd appeared to enjoy it as well. Surely that is the main thing?

and i am going this Monday woo! Cant wait!

When Britney performs she performs, her concert is more of a show, and her dance routines would be damn hard to sing in, but she still does sing the ballards live, and does them well! I like the mix, as i wouldnt like to see britney just stand there singing all the time, that just wouldnt be Britney Spears!

Originally Posted by Julian

So we should thank the "music" moguls.

Although a misguided minority will unfortunately do both.

So what we need is a combination...........How can we get both

[Julian]

Originally Posted by Damien

So what we need is a combination...........How can we get both

This is obviously off topic but I'm confused.