Bnp

Originally Posted by Pierre

Why???

The BNP are a political party in this country, Very right wing, possibly racist they have very little support and very little power but all they are is a political party.

Would you complain if a teacher was a member of the Torys,Labour,Liberals,Greens,Raving Loonys,Plaid Cymru (Welsh National Party), SNP (Scottish National Party), Sinn Fein????

No I think not.

We are supposed to live in free country where people can have their own political beliefs and not be victimised for them. But the politically correct crowd are fast eroding this freedom.

The guy who has been sacked for being a member or standing for the BNP will have a very god case for wrongful dismissal and I hope he takes the school to court and I hope he gets a big payout.

I dont agree with what the BMP stand for, However your bang on here, There members have the same rights as everyone else.

Originally Posted by Damien

What I mean is how can BNP members be teachers? it is wrong

OMG some teachers already are thats why they are talking about it

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...ds/3666651.stm

No what you mean is you dont like the idea of them being teachers therefor its wrong and everyone must agree with you. However in my world you have the right to say that and not have some high and mighty say its wrong.

I am not agreeing against free speech and I agree in theory that they should be allowed to teach.

However it less about rights and more about views. The BNP has extremely racist views one of them is the 'British whites' issue which they consider superior already there is a problem.

The leader of the BNP as well as some members of its party deny the holocaust happened

The BNP and Holocaust denial


In 1998, Griffin was found guilty of distributing material likely to incite racial hatred. The incident related to his publication, The Rune, which in the issue in question denied the Holocaust took place. He received a two-year suspended jail sentence.

Referring to the Holocaust as the "Holohoax", Griffin launched an attack on Holocaust denier David Irving for playing the "numbers game" in Issue 11 of The Rune. This attack followed Irving's admission in an interview that up to four million Jews died in the Holocaust. Griffin wrote: "True revisionists will not be fooled by this new twist to the sorry tale of the Hoax of the Twentieth Century".

After his arrest he wrote, "I have reached the conclusion that the 'extermination' tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter witch hysteria".

The star witness testifying at Harrow Crown court on Griffin's behalf was Robert Faurisson, the French Holocaust denier.

The BNP produced Holocaust News in the early 1990s, a four-page broadsheet which denied the Holocaust. Issue one was headlined: "'Holocaust' Story an Evil Hoax". Issue Two was headlined "Auschwitz not a Death Camp". In both editions the Anne Frank Diaries were dismissed as a forgery.

Several of the world's leading Holocaust deniers have addressed BNP meetings. They have included, David Irving, Ernst ZÃÃâ€*’¼ndel and Fred Leuchter.

Also the racist stuff

The BNP and racism


The BNP declared in its 1997 manifesto, Britain Reborn, "The horrifying future that awaits Britain as a result of the follies of Third World immigration can only be averted if we adopt two very firm policies:

1) Future immigration of non-whites must be stopped;

2) Non-whites already here must be repatriated or otherwise resettled overseas and Britain made once again a white country".

The BNP has dropped its policy of compulsory repatriation in order to remove the Nazi label that follows from such a policy. Yet it states that its main aim is to "protect and preserve the racial and cultural integrity of the British people - and of others too. The party believes in separation".

Throughout the Serb conflict with the Kosovans, the BNP made it clear that it was in favour of ethnic cleansing: "The Serbs' real crime isn't the harshness with which they have expelled so many of the Albanian Muslims who, having become the majority in the Kosovan heart of Serbia by a mixture of immigration, a high birth rate, and low level ethnic cleansing of the native Serbs... No! The real crime in the eyes of the powerful advocates of a multiracial New World Order is for any people to demand the right to preserve their own identity and freedom."

The BNP's tone in the Greater London Assembly elections in 2000 remained similar to its previous "Rights for Whites" slogans of the past. Under the title, "A voice for London's silent majority" it claimed that "London is becoming a foreign city", in which the "British" have become "second class citizens".

In March 2000, Griffin claimed, "The asylum seeker issue has been great for us... This issue legitimates us."

The cover of the November 2000 edition of Spearhead declares, "Time to stop feeling guilty about being 'racist'."

Basically would you want someone with those views teaching your children? I mean surely is subject like History and RE and english lit there is a clear conflict of interest?

[poolking]

Being a member/supporter of the BNP, doesn't automatically make you a racist either. Even though quite a few members use it as an excuse to be racist.

Not all their polices are racist but many are and are simply dressed up as respectable.

[poolking]

Originally Posted by Damien

Not all their polices are racist but many are and are simply dressed up as respectable.

Don't all political parties dress up their less palatable policies as respectable?

Yes, but the BNP views are a lot worse

[zoombini]

Such as?

I hear so much about how bad thier polocies are but what are they?
What is so bad about thier policies?

We are against the †˜trendyÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ ’¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€Å ¾Ã‚¢ teaching methods that have made Britain one of the most poorly educated nations in Europe. We will end the practice of politically correct indoctrination in all its guises and we will restore discipline in the classroom

I dont like the look of that 'end politically correct indoctrination'? In other words end teachers not offending races and such.

We reject the idea that Britain must forever be obliged to subsidise the incompetence and corruption of Third World states by supplying them with financial aid

There a lot of countrys that depend on that money to feed their population cutting there funding will be drastic. While some of the money might not reach there citizens a lot of it does

introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question

SOme of these people fled torture and oppression forcing them back to there own countries is awful and remember these people are LEGALLY allowed to be here

We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment..

Killing people is against Human rights no matter what they have done and is something that we should be proud we abolished

We are against mixed-raced relationships because we believe that all species and races of life on this planet are beautiful and must be preserved. When whites take partners from other ethnic groups, a white family line that stretches back into deep pre-history is destroyed. And, of course, the same is true of the non-white side. We want generations that spring from us to be the same as us, look like us, and be moved by the same things as us. We feel that to preserve the rich tapestry of mankind, we must preserve ethnic differences, not †˜mish-mashâ₠¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ them together.

Good god, why do I even need to say what that is bad

The majority of racist attacks in this country are committed against white British people, contrary to the image that the anti-British mass media portray

That is not true, look up the facts if you like

: We believe that homosexuality is unhealthy for any community. Even so, no one wants to see homosexuals which make up less than 2% of the entire population persecuted for being what they are. That's why homosexuality was legalised. Nevertheless, the flood of homosexual propaganda to 'normalise' this tendency has been both unforeseen and corrupting. Consequently, there will be a ban on the public display and promotion of homosexuality, including in schools and in the mass media

I am going to stop now because it is clear what is bad and i cannot continue anyway if anyone else is upset by the polices that i have quoted then I will delete the post. Note: I am against all the polices and posted them after being asked what is so bad about them

[punky]

Good point poolking/Damien, I was just about to bring that up. I don't know how many, but a number of BNP members/supporters aren't racist but support purely their policies and healthcare, etc

Yes some people do, no doubt.

But if you look at my above post those are some of the worst policies which the BNP has. Also do a search for nick griffin, the leader of the BNP and some of the history he has. He has a history of promoting holocaust denial and other racist views.

Privately, the BNP leaders have contin-ually reasserted their political views. "all black people will be repatriated, even if they were born here," BNP leader Nick Griffin told Wales on Sunday in 1996. "We must preserve the white race, because it has been responsible for all the good things in civilisation."

I recommend this site as well read up about the BNP and its leader
http://www.s-light.demon.co.uk/

[punky]

Originally Posted by Damien

Yes some people do, no doubt.

But if you look at my above post those are some of the worst policies which the BNP has. Also do a search for nick griffin, the leader of the BNP and some of the history he has. He has a history of promoting holocaust denial and other racist views.



I recommend this site as well read up about the BNP and its leader
http://www.s-light.demon.co.uk/

I wasn't saying there aren't racist people in organisation, actually, far from it. Earlier, I was saying the BNP should be banned, because I think it has become too extreme. Althoiugh some aren't racist, most are, and it is really stretching people's tolerances and having a real effect on everyone.

Oh I agree with you on that

[Bifta]

Not that I relish any of the views or members of the BNP, over here we have an ex-terrorist as education minister, I doubt members of the BNP would do any more harm.

[fireman328]

The phrase "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" is widely attributed to Voltaire, but cannot be found in his writings. With good reason. The phrase was invented by a later author as an epitome of his attitude. It appeared in The Friends of Voltaire (1906), written by Evelyn Beatrice Hall under the pseudonym S[tephen] G. Tallentyre.
QED