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philip.j.fry · 08-04-2004, 18:32

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

Well, under such a system, how'd you propose to reward those that work harder than others? I.e., someone putting 42 hours in a week opposed to 30 a week?

In philitopia, there would be no need for anyone to put in more work than anyone else.

downquark1 · 08-04-2004, 18:34

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

The Democrats of the 50s were different. Although they had the touch of the left, they meant to do good.

While the democrats today sit underground stroking a white cat, cackling. John Kerry looks the type to do that.

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There is no difference between communism and socialism except that one proposes to enslave society by force, and the other by vote.

Well, at least its democratic

It's official, I've been driven to sarcasm.

Jerrek · 08-04-2004, 18:34

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Originally Posted by towny

No, the point is not that you can do it if you want, the point is that the vast majority of computer users don't know how to, and don't care - they just want what's the simplest option. The simplest option is just to stick with WMP because it's there, and the only reason it's there is because its manufacturer has an unfair advantage in that regard.

(emphasis added)

So tell me, if they don't care, why the lawsuit in the first place?

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All that said, there is something to be said for M$'s own suggestion to the EU, which was rather than forcing them to remove WMP, they should have been forced to add Quicktime and Real Player.

As long as you force Apple to bundle the others too, and UNIX companies to bundle IE for UNIX, and so forth.

It is ridiculous. You want to use laws to further your vendetta against Microsoft, not to bring "choices" to the consumer. The consumer already have choices, and Microsoft is just making it incredibly easy for consumers. Something they have always done (and Linux has not), and now the Microsoft-wannabe's are all upset because they can't possibly create as good a product as Microsoft.

Jerrek · 08-04-2004, 18:35

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Originally Posted by philip.j.fry

In all honesty, that would probably be the best option. On the first run it could then ask which player you wish to use as default.

I would *GREATLY* object if RealPlayer is installed. It is CRAP. PURE CRAP. And I'm sure some had spyware too.

I would also greatly object if QuickTime comes with the system, because the free one is crap. I have the store one, and I want that one.

Jerrek · 08-04-2004, 18:36

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Originally Posted by philip.j.fry

In philitopia, there would be no need for anyone to put in more work than anyone else.

But what if that person wants to?

downquark1 · 08-04-2004, 18:38

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

But what if that person wants to?

If someone wants to then maybe the company should charge *them*

ic14 · 08-04-2004, 18:39

I said i wouldnt post in here again, sigh.....

"As long as you force Apple to bundle the others too"
While you dont get the other media players (not like there needed, QT does all i need) you do get IE with the OS.

philip.j.fry · 08-04-2004, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

But what if that person wants to?

Then they would be free to, and they would earn respect and recognition.

downquark1 · 08-04-2004, 18:42

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It is ridiculous. You want to use laws to further your vendetta against Microsoft, not to bring "choices" to the consumer. The consumer already have choices, and Microsoft is just making it incredibly easy for consumers. Something they have always done (and Linux has not), and now the Microsoft-wannabe's are all upset because they can't possibly create as good a product as Microsoft.

Mac programs made by Microsoft aren't as good as ones made by apple.

Maybe it's to do with the fact the company makes the operating system, or maybe microsoft just aren't that good. Maybe apple are keeping secrets from them.

philip.j.fry · 08-04-2004, 18:42

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

I would *GREATLY* object if RealPlayer is installed. It is CRAP. PURE CRAP. And I'm sure some had spyware too.

I would also greatly object if QuickTime comes with the system, because the free one is crap. I have the store one, and I want that one.

They wouldn't necessarily have to be installed per se, the installer would just have to be on the system and then installed at the users request.

Jerrek · 08-04-2004, 18:50

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Originally Posted by philip.j.fry

Then they would be free to, and they would earn respect and recognition.

But not compensation?

Jerrek · 08-04-2004, 18:50

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Originally Posted by downquark1

Mac programs made by Microsoft aren't as good as ones made by apple.

Maybe it's to do with the fact the company makes the operating system, or maybe microsoft just aren't that good. Maybe apple are keeping secrets from them.

So?

**Damien** · 08-04-2004, 18:51

If you force Microsoft is bundle quicktime then osx would have to come with WMP.

Its not fair to stop microsoft doing bundles while other companys can

Jerrek · 08-04-2004, 18:51

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Originally Posted by philip.j.fry

They wouldn't necessarily have to be installed per se, the installer would just have to be on the system and then installed at the users request.

I would object to that too. I don't want any files on my system that I don't need or want. HAving senseless installers somewhere on the system is stupid. I don't want it.

philip.j.fry · 08-04-2004, 18:53

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

But not compensation?

No, there would be nothing more to give, they would have everything they could ever need already. The concept of greed is unknown in philitopia.