Can I do this..(aerial signal from cable)

philip.j.fry · 08-04-2004, 16:25

Okay, I am currently only subscribed to NTL broadband. This week, the arial to the block of flats that I live in has gone out and stopped providing a signal for some reason that the landlord can't determine. Other people in the building have managed to use the NTL cable to get a signal for their tv's.

My question is, can I do this, only being subscribed to broadband, and if I can how do I go about doing so?

wheeliebin · 08-04-2004, 16:31

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Originally Posted by philip.j.fry

Okay, I am currently only subscribed to NTL broadband. This week, the arial to the block of flats that I live in has gone out and stopped providing a signal for some reason that the landlord can't determine. Other people in the building have managed to use the NTL cable to get a signal for their tv's.

My question is, can I do this, only being subscribed to broadband, and if I can how do I go about doing so?

quick answer, yes technically.

Should you do it and risk ballsing up your broadband and causing ingress onto Ntl's network ? ...no

Neil · 08-04-2004, 16:33

As you say-you're only paying for BB, so you would need to ring up ntl & ask them if they can supply you with a TV package, & how much it would cost.

philip.j.fry · 08-04-2004, 16:37

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Originally Posted by Neil

As you say-you're only paying for BB, so you would need to ring up ntl & ask them if they can supply you with a TV package, & how much it would cost.

Nevermind, I wasn't looking for any extra channels, just wondered if there was some easy way of regaining my terrestrial channels by getting the usual signal from the cable instead of an arial. Thanks for the help anyway guys.

Shaun · 08-04-2004, 16:50

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Originally Posted by philip.j.fry

Nevermind, I wasn't looking for any extra channels, just wondered if there was some easy way of regaining my terrestrial channels by getting the usual signal from the cable instead of an arial. Thanks for the help anyway guys.

Like Wheelybin said, technically you can, you need a cable splitter and the appropriate coax and end, I'm sure someone in here can point you to the right place in maplins. But as was also suggested, if you affect the signal levels and knock your BB off then Ntl will charge you for a call out

HTH

wheeliebin · 08-04-2004, 17:23

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Originally Posted by dellwear

Like Wheelybin said, technically you can, you need a cable splitter and the appropriate coax and end, I'm sure someone in here can point you to the right place in maplins. But as was also suggested, if you affect the signal levels and knock your BB off then Ntl will charge you for a call out

HTH

IMHO it wouldnt hurt to split the signal and get the MATV signal into the TV. That is if it is done properly.

But the biggest problem i see time and again is that people dont use the correct tools (which can be expensive). This often results in a badly stripped cable and a connector that isnt crimped on properly. Very often the first thing to be affected as the result of a badly made connector is the bottom range of frequencies including the return path spectrum, this means .......no broadband connection.

The theory is that you simply split the cable using a 1ghz two way splitter and run a connector to the tv as well as the modem . The other thing to consider is that if you are near the end of the modems ability to range up its power level you may still lose the return path signal even if the connectors are made properly. The modem will need to power up an additional 3dbmv (approx) after having the 2 way splitter fitted.

HTH

philip.j.fry · 08-04-2004, 17:38

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Originally Posted by wheeliebin

The theory is that you simply split the cable using a 1ghz two way splitter and run a connector to the tv as well as the modem . The other thing to consider is that if you are near the end of the modems ability to range up its power level you may still lose the return path signal even if the connectors are made properly. The modem will need to power up an additional 3dbmv (approx) after having the 2 way splitter fitted.

HTH

Would that splitter be the same one as that is put on for splitting the BB and DTV signals? As I believe that there is already one of those inside the white box on the wall.

I think I'll leave it though as although it's probably within my capabilities it sounds like too much hassle

It's just so quiet here on my own without the tv for company

paulyoung666 · 08-04-2004, 18:54

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Originally Posted by philip.j.fry

Would that splitter be the same one as that is put on for splitting the BB and DTV signals? As I believe that there is already one of those inside the white box on the wall.

I think I'll leave it though as although it's probably within my capabilities it sounds like too much hassle

It's just so quiet here on my own without the tv for company

maybe a call to the landlord asking why you are without an aerial would be in order , is it part of your contract you have with him/her

philip.j.fry · 08-04-2004, 18:59

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

maybe a call to the landlord asking why you are without an aerial would be in order , is it part of your contract you have with him/her

He already knows about it, he's been around trying to fix it today but he couldn't find anything wrong and he's now away for the weekend so nothing can be done until tuesday. It's just that he said other tenants had managed to get a signal from their ntl cables, but they have/had DTV so they have the connectors already set-up. I was just hoping for a quick fix.

paulyoung666 · 08-04-2004, 20:03

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Originally Posted by philip.j.fry

He already knows about it, he's been around trying to fix it today but he couldn't find anything wrong and he's now away for the weekend so nothing can be done until tuesday. It's just that he said other tenants had managed to get a signal from their ntl cables, but they have/had DTV so they have the connectors already set-up. I was just hoping for a quick fix.

fair play my mate , i really wouldnt mess about , it is possible to end up in a pile of poo by doing it

Foo Fighter · 08-04-2004, 20:09

Just do it, its very un likely you would notice any difference on the cable modem unless your using sommet like speaker wire :P

paulyoung666 · 08-04-2004, 20:36

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Originally Posted by Foo Fighter

Just do it, its very un likely you would notice any difference on the cable modem unless your using sommet like speaker wire :P

09-04-2004, 10:18

If you did want to try it, then the Maplin 2 way splitter (QQ69A) should work providing, as has been already mentioned, that your signal is strong enough to overcome the loss through the splitter.

They also sell ready made leads.
F plug to F plug 1.5m (BM89W) or 5m (QQ77J).
F plug to coax plug 2m (QQ74R).

You will only see all the unencrypted channels if you have a TV capable of tuning outside the normal UHF television frequencies.