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[Merged] Spam/Viruses on ntl.
View Poll Results: How should NTL handle spam
Mark the mail as spam and let the user deal with it 22 40.74%
Block it totaly at the server 27 50.00%
Leave it alone 5 9.26%
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Old 06-04-2004, 11:51   #91
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband

Hmm i cant see why ntl cant have spam filtering i have it on my domain email address it just came as standard with the hosting i bought
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Old 06-04-2004, 12:00   #92
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband

your domain hosting is probably with a far better company than NTL.. don't forget also that NTL are a TV company that added on the IT stuff afterwards so maybe they think didn't think about this stuff..
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Old 06-04-2004, 13:41   #93
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband

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your domain hosting is probably with a far better company than NTL.. don't forget also that NTL are a TV company that added on the IT stuff afterwards so maybe they think didn't think about this stuff..
true but surly ntl could just put spam assassin on their servers
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Old 06-04-2004, 14:21   #94
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband

i can't beleive i defended NTL in a post

i wish they would but i think until the Goverment or EU force ISPs to do this then nothing will happen. I can't see NTL spending money on this or even installing anything for free unless they are forced into it.

Just think of that if all ISPs in the world had to have spam filtering then there would be no point in sending it and then the problem would go away.
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Old 06-04-2004, 14:34   #95
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband

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i can't beleive i defended NTL in a post

i wish they would but i think until the Goverment or EU force ISPs to do this then nothing will happen. I can't see NTL spending money on this or even installing anything for free unless they are forced into it.

Just think of that if all ISPs in the world had to have spam filtering then there would be no point in sending it and then the problem would go away.
Economically they are being driven to it.
Demons solution came soon after they had a massive POP server investment to deal with the increasing volumes of mail. Once the new servers were in place they put in spam trapping to reduce the volumes these servers handled thus increasing the estimated useful life (based on maximum volumes the servers could handle).
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband

i guess Demon managed to put the cost of this in with an upgrade they were doing. NTL aren't doing any upgrade at the moment.
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Old 06-04-2004, 15:03   #97
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband

At the moment, no, but soon...

http://www.openwave.com/us/news_room...v_ntl_0115.htm
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Old 06-04-2004, 15:07   #98
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Ah is that 'coming soon' by any chance
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Angry Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband

SPAM

As the Monty Python sketch went "I DON'T LIKE SPAM"

I'm currently getting about 40-60 SPAM attacks a day AAARRRGGHHH

In the 3 months that followed Christmas I received well over 3000 (Yes 3000) e-mails and of those about 95% were SPAM an 10% has the NETSKY.B virus.

Thank God for NORTON ANTI-VIRUS & ANTI-SPAM

Come on NTL "GET BOB THE BUILDER IN!! HE CAN FIX IT"
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband

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SPAM

As the Monty Python sketch went "I DON'T LIKE SPAM"

I'm currently getting about 40-60 SPAM attacks a day AAARRRGGHHH

In the 3 months that followed Christmas I received well over 3000 (Yes 3000) e-mails and of those about 95% were SPAM an 10% has the NETSKY.B virus.

Thank God for NORTON ANTI-VIRUS & ANTI-SPAM

Come on NTL "GET BOB THE BUILDER IN!! HE CAN FIX IT"
One way to stop spam is to be careful where on the internet you publish your email address.

Add extra characters to your email address to prevent email harvesters from spamming you afterwards.
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Old 06-04-2004, 20:03   #101
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One way to stop spam is to be careful where on the internet you publish your email address.

Add extra characters to your email address to prevent email harvesters from spamming you afterwards.


dont always work though
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband

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true but surly ntl could just put spam assassin on their servers
Spam Assasin is a standard cPanel feature, it's not as if ntl is running their broadband and web hosting services off cPanel, although ome to think of the performance and problems they probably are

(BTW, the get the joke you have to understand that cPanel is a terribly unstable web control panel...yea, it's poor )
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband

A question regarding spam.

I run Spampal and generally just delete the spam but decided to have a look at some of the headers after reading the post linked to earlier.

I notice that a number of spam msgs are not actually addressed to me, for example if I were joe.bloggs@ntl the emails may be addressed to j.bloggs@ntl or joe2.bloggs but some have no similarity to my email address at all (apart from @ntl) nor can I see any cc with my actual address.

Can someone explain this please?
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A question regarding spam.

I run Spampal and generally just delete the spam but decided to have a look at some of the headers after reading the post linked to earlier.

I notice that a number of spam msgs are not actually addressed to me, for example if I were joe.bloggs@ntl the emails may be addressed to j.bloggs@ntl or joe2.bloggs but some have no similarity to my email address at all (apart from @ntl) nor can I see any cc with my actual address.

Can someone explain this please?
You are a BCC (Blind Carbon Copy) on the address list, not a To or CC. You should be able to see yourself there.
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I said block at the server, but I think the option to opt out is something that should exist.

As I said on the other thread, from what I have read about my POP server providers Demons solution, this looks to be a sensible solution in that up to 17% of spam will get through, but the chances of incorrect flagging are virtually 0.

Brightmail the provider of the solution have set up e-mail accounts at hosts globally. These have never been publicised on the web. If a mail arrives in the in box of one of these accounts, by default it must be spam and is blacklisted.
yes ntl need to start using brightmail. see http://www.brightmail.com
they are very good.
they have massively cut down the amount of spam users recieve on hotmail.
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