ID cards for uk citizens over 16 - Page 6

**Chris** · 08-07-2003, 16:43

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Originally posted by Nor
em, thats twice now.

What's twice?

Nor · 08-07-2003, 16:46

Pretty obvious to me.

duncant403 · 08-07-2003, 16:55

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Originally posted by Dave Stones
trains have reinforced glass and they are in accidents often enough

Trains have laminated glass - that are designed not to shatter - not reinforced glass. Laminated glass isn't too difficult to remove with a hammer - otherwise there wouldn't be much point in providing hammers by the windows in trains.

**Chris** · 08-07-2003, 16:58

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Originally posted by Nor
Pretty obvious to me.

Obviously. Go on, indulge an idiot.

Ramrod · 08-07-2003, 17:04

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Originally posted by towny
Personally, I think we're confusing two issues. A UK ID card scheme does not, for me, fulfill Biblical prophecy, which seems to point towards some form of international scheme tied in to a demand of loyalty to an international figure, possibly a world president.

What Blunkett wants to do is offer us all plastic cards to put in our wallets.

According to the Bible, what the 'Antichrist' wants to do (at some point in the future) is to force everyone to take some kind of mark, perhaps a barcode or subcutaneous chip, either on their forehead or on the back of their right hand.

Thats what I thought. Now go tell that to Russ.....

**Chris** · 08-07-2003, 17:08

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Originally posted by Ramrod
Thats what I thought. Now go tell that to Russ.....

Even born again, Bible-believing Christians disagree on some of the finer fringe issues ... we all agree on the central, important stuff, but that's got nowt to do with ID cards.

Russ · 08-07-2003, 17:43

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Originally posted by Ramrod
Thats what I thought. Now go tell that to Russ.....

You're missing the point - I never said I'd refuse to have that silly ID card, neither did I say that it would be what Revelations states. I just pointed out that I did not think it should be compulsary.

Passports are entirely different btw - they are only required if you go abroad. Apart from a one-year passport when I was 17 I've never had one actually.

Dave Stones · 08-07-2003, 17:45

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Originally posted by duncant403
Trains have laminated glass - that are designed not to shatter - not reinforced glass. Laminated glass isn't too difficult to remove with a hammer - otherwise there wouldn't be much point in providing hammers by the windows in trains.

i stand corrected...

dont go around reading the etchings in the corners or breaking glass much to know tho

as far as im concerned glass is glass...

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Passports are entirely different btw - they are only required if you go abroad. Apart from a one-year passport when I was 17 I've never had one actually.

*remembers the days when you didnt need a passport to travel in europe...

**Chris** · 08-07-2003, 17:46

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Originally posted by Dave Stones
*remembers the days when you didnt need a passport to travel in europe...

I thought you were only 18? You've needed a passport to travel round Europe since the late 19th century, afaik ...

Dave Stones · 08-07-2003, 17:49

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Originally posted by towny
I thought you were only 18? You've needed a passport to travel round Europe since the late 19th century, afaik ...

i am. i went to greece when i was 14 and it stated on our tickets that passports werent required. before 9/11 airflights round europe were like trains werent they?

anyway i had a passport but there were more than one businessman who just showed their boarding cards and didnt have passports...

edit : cjanged my age from 145 to 14

i cant type...

**Chris** · 08-07-2003, 17:51

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Originally posted by Dave Stones
i am. i went to greece when i was 14 and it stated on our tickets that passports werent required. before 9/11 airflights round europe were like trains werent they?

anyway i had a passport but there were more than one businessman who just showed their boarding cards and didnt have passports...

edit : cjanged my age from 145 to 14 i cant type...

Very odd. Did you fly from a different European country into Greece? The UK is not part of the agreement that removes the need for passports within the EU, so you should have your passport checked every time you enter or leave the UK.

Dave Stones · 08-07-2003, 17:54

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Originally posted by towny
Very odd. Did you fly from a different European country into Greece? The UK is not part of the agreement that removes the need for passports within the EU, so you should have your passport checked every time you enter or leave the UK.

well i flew from manchester... does that count? us yorkshire peeps need a passport to go there

maybe the security was just slack or something then, cos our passports got checked nowhere, they didnt ask for it at check in, or where u get frisked by the guards, or where we got on, or at the other end. at the other end we just waltzed merrily thru the blue channel... no one was there at all

i cant remember what happened on the way back though.probably got checked but i cant remember...

Russ · 08-07-2003, 18:28

On the subject of the 'mark', I found this short article.

And this was mentioned in a book witten 2000 years ago.....

Nor · 08-07-2003, 18:31

This is more like Mystic Meg to me than Religion. In my view Religion is fine when its about acceptance and compassion, but this is just ridiculous to me.

Dave Stones · 08-07-2003, 18:33

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Originally posted by Russ D
On the subject of the 'mark', I found this short article.

And this was mentioned in a book witten 2000 years ago.....

*remembers an x-files ep a few years ago where scully had one of these removed from the back of her neck...