Explosive Fertiliser Found in Terrorist Raid

[Simon Rochelle]

Originally Posted by Graham

I'm sorry, but I think you need to take a closer look at colonial history and the rise of Western power over the past two or three hundred years, not to mention events such as the Crusades.

We are quite content, when it suits our purpose, to support "Terrorists" (sorry, we like them, so that should probably be "Freedom Fighters") eg Columbia, Nicaragua, Cuba etc. We are happy to supply weapons (including those of mass destruction: Rumsfeld/ Saddam) to questionable regimes (Chile, Indonesia, assorted African states) or do business with countries that have deplorable human rights records (China, Turkey, Saudi Arabia), not to mention being happy to overlook or stay out of conflicts or countries that have no interest or use to us etc.

To portray us as "White Hats" or "Good Guys" whilst ignoring these facts is to blind oneself to the truth.

All very true. I guess its just upsetting when people bring there wars to your doorstep. Hell, we were slaughtering people in foreign lands at the turn of the centurary even, when we looked on ourselves as more superiour. I guess that feeling still exists today, however, Britian has never bred terrorists or engaged in acts of terrorism (i know, possibly not a true statement, as our goverment is the most secrative in the world). But we have always fought our wars as gentlemen and not crept in the shadows blowing ourselves up around civilians.

Originally Posted by Simon Rochelle

All very true. I guess its just upsetting when people bring there wars to your doorstep.

And even more so when it *is* "our war"...

Hell, we were slaughtering people in foreign lands at the turn of the centurary even, when we looked on ourselves as more superiour. I guess that feeling still exists today, however, Britian has never bred terrorists or engaged in acts of terrorism (i know, possibly not a true statement, as our goverment is the most secrative in the world). But we have always fought our wars as gentlemen and not crept in the shadows blowing ourselves up around civilians.

Would a "gentleman" suggest using chemical weapons against "turbulent tribes"?

http://www.againstbombing.org/chemical.htm

"On 19 February, 1920, before the start of the Arab uprising, Churchill (then Secretary for War and Air) wrote to Sir Hugh Trenchard, the pioneer of air warfare. Would it be possible for Trenchard to take control of Iraq? This would entail 'the provision of some kind of asphyxiating bombs calculated to cause disablement of some kind but not death...for use in preliminary operations against turbulent tribes.'

"Churchill was in no doubt that gas could be profitably employed against the Kurds and Iraqis (as well as against other peoples in the Empire): 'I do not understand this sqeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poison gas against uncivilised tribes.'"

[punky]

Very worryingly, ABC News has reported that the terrorists arrested a few days ago in London wern't just planng a bomb, it was a chemical attack. They planned to use "Osmodium Tetraoxide", which apparently is very nasty.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/I..._040405-1.html

And also:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3603961.stm

ABC News alledges to have good, credible sources inside the Met Police. On Capital Radio, the police are refusing to comment about it.

Doesn't make for good reading does it....

[paulyoung666]

very scary i am afraid

Phew, Lucky it was stopped though.

Like some Terrorist once said "you need to be lucky all the time, we need to be lucky once"

The succesfull attack is coming be it a few days, weeks, months or even years we WILL be attacked and dispite what the terrorists say its nnot because of iraq or anything else. Terrorists dont give a dam about peoples freedom be it iraqi's or british people

[paulyoung666]

another link to the story , when something like this happens you start to realise how close it is to something really nasty happening

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Damien

Phew, Lucky it was stopped though.

Like some Terrorist once said "you need to be lucky all the time, we need to be lucky once"

The succesfull attack is coming be it a few days, weeks, months or even years we WILL be attacked and dispite what the terrorists say its nnot because of iraq or anything else. Terrorists dont give a dam about peoples freedom be it iraqi's or british people

Very true. One of my patients is an anti-terrorist expert/advisor (works for "the crown" ). He is of the opinion that it will happen and is just a matter of time and there is not a lot that we can do about it

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Very true. One of my patients is an anti-terrorist expert/advisor (works for "the crown" ). He is of the opinion that it will happen and is just a matter of time and there is not a lot that we can do about it

and that is looking more and more likely i'm afraid

[Ramrod]

Interesting comments

Being prepared is not the same as being paranoid

[Graham F]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3612737.stm

Five have been charged for terrorist related activities and 2 have been released on bail