Lying on job applications
29-03-2004, 21:04
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Re: Lying on job applications
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Originally Posted by Incognitas
Claiming to be a doctor or solicitor or policeman is illegal surely.Saying that you have have yay years of experience is not illegal.However it is immoral.
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Yep, impersonating is illegal. Lying isn't. Good point.
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29-03-2004, 21:05
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Re: Lying on job applications
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Originally Posted by dr wadd
Really? To touch upon another thread you don`t want to legalise marriage for gay couples. What you mean to say is that you want to protect individual rights when they suit your purposes, no matter how unreasonable.
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No one has a right to marry. Everyone has a right to freedom of speech though.
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29-03-2004, 21:06
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Re: Lying on job applications
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Originally Posted by dr wadd
Perhaps by attaching a copy of your degree certificate?
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Then you're not lying, are you?
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29-03-2004, 21:08
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Re: Lying on job applications
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Originally Posted by Pierre
I know I'm joing in late here.
But Jerrek answer me this. What if I lie on my application form and say that I have a Medical Doctorate and that I'm specialising in neurosurgery.
I'm a good Bull$hitter and breeze through the interview. Next thing you know, hey I'm a doctor.
Then would you believe it you are diagnosed as having a brain tumour and guess what? I'm goning to operate on you. All because you protected my individual rights........Cheers mate.
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Thanks Incog, for the thought. In this scenario, you are impersonating someone, which is clearly illegal. Simply saying you worked 4 months on a job when in fact you worked only 2 is a lie, and is not and should not be illegal.
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29-03-2004, 22:02
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Re: Lying on job applications
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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Thanks Incog, for the thought. In this scenario, you are impersonating someone, which is clearly illegal. Simply saying you worked 4 months on a job when in fact you worked only 2 is a lie, and is not and should not be illegal.
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That's Pierre actually
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29-03-2004, 22:24
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Re: Lying on job applications
 My confusion is expanding.This is the second thread I have become confused about.
I think I either need to go to bed or I need a brain transplant.
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29-03-2004, 22:42
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Re: Lying on job applications
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Originally Posted by Incognitas
 My confusion is expanding.This is the second thread I have become confused about.
I think I either need to go to bed or I need a brain transplant.
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I've got to agree with you here. I have just read the 2 previous posts to yours and get this feeling that either my brain is softening or that I really need to read everything very, very carefully from thread No 1 onwards.
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29-03-2004, 22:44
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Re: Lying on job applications
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Originally Posted by Incognitas
 My confusion is expanding.This is the second thread I have become confused about.
I think I either need to go to bed or I need a brain transplant.
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not at all, Incog, I am increasingly of the opinion that Jerrek regards this forum as an 'ants nest', he can stop by & stir up with a stick?
- I noticed you are/were banned on the 'offtopic' forums, Jerrek, how could that have happened - a bet?
- lying on a job application in the UK is an offence under the Theft Act, how could they bring a prosecution, otherwise, your attempts to obfuscate that are lame in the extreme, Jerrek
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29-03-2004, 22:52
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Re: Lying on job applications
In the early 80's my dad got a job out in saudi arabia. The only way they would allow the family to move out was if he had a degree.
He never went to uni as he married my mum instead (fool)
Thankfully the doctor had copies of degree certificates, so dad magically got one and we spent 5 glorious years out there.
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29-03-2004, 23:00
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
In the early 80's my dad got a job out in saudi arabia. The only way they would allow the family to move out was if he had a degree.
He never went to uni as he married my mum instead (fool)
Thankfully the doctor had copies of degree certificates, so dad magically got one and we spent 5 glorious years out there.
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I think the doctor may have broken a law or two
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29-03-2004, 23:28
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I think the doctor may have broken a law or two 
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Probably, but it got families out there.
The need for the degree was because the owners of the company had the impression that a degree made you worth more.
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29-03-2004, 23:36
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
Probably, but it got families out there.
The need for the degree was because the owners of the company had the impression that a degree made you worth more.
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I'm reminded of this spam regarding degrees from 'prestigious non-accredited universities' here. It might help some people going for jobs where the prospective employer is overly fond of degrees
We all embellish our cvs to some extent. But I think claiming you have qualifications you don't have is probably not very wise. I suppose it's the difference between lying and putting some spin on things.
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30-03-2004, 00:06
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Re: Lying on job applications
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I'm reminded of this spam regarding degrees from 'prestigious non-accredited universities' here. It might help some people going for jobs where the prospective employer is overly fond of degrees
We all embellish our cvs to some extent. But I think claiming you have qualifications you don't have is probably not very wise. I suppose it's the difference between lying and putting some spin on things.
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Yeah, there's a difference between someone saying they have a BEng and going into a draftmans job they've done for 5 years already, and someone saying they have a medical qualification when they have no experience at all.
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30-03-2004, 07:29
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Re: Lying on job applications
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How do you propose to attach the proof of your degree?
Perhaps by attaching a copy of your degree certificate?
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By attaching your "fake" certificate.
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Thanks Incog, for the thought. In this scenario, you are impersonating someone, which is clearly illegal. Simply saying you worked 4 months on a job when in fact you worked only 2 is a lie, and is not and should not be illegal.
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A lie, is a lie, is a lie.
Ok then what if you are a qualified doctor but you have lied about a procedure that you say you can perform but actually have no experience in performing?????
You argument is weak on every level
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15-05-2004, 11:19
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Re: Lying on job applications
Apologies for dragging this one up again but look at this - they may be better drivers but when it comes to telling the truth.......
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