Download from Kazaa - Go to prison

Can i point something out?

They are not sending people to prison only sueing them and even then its serial uploaders

[kRAyZZed]

heh if you choose to use a p2p app DONT use kazaa hunt around and you can still find K-Lite mirrored (the main site may have been shut down by sharman but work still goes on) then no spyware.

Also the way you get done is by search bots that run searches 24/7 and if it finds a match they log ip of the sources (to get the ip they have to initiate a transfer and then can get the ip from the packets). This method however is very flawed as you can get a nasty letter (i have myself) when you are only sharing a file that has been renamed to something copyrighted eg a fake - now i actually challenged this and threatened to sue as I had not done anything wrong and i got a formal written apology from both MediaForce and NTL (who didnt investigate and just carried out MediaForces demands without question), now this apology is my prize and joy as at one point i was a developer on K-lite ++ 2.6 and i thought it was rather ironic.

So in order to not get caught by the snoops you can do 1 of 2 things or both
1) Use peerguardian or bad ip blocker that is included with k-lite, these are apps that stop certain ips that have been reported as being copyright protection agencies or otherwise unsavoury characters. from connecting to you.
2) This is something i hate to say but it has to be said DONT SHARE, if you dont share they cant catch you by attempting to download from you.

Now i am only stating this for reference purposes and I have to say I no longer tolerate copyright violations (hence my leaving the k-lite project) but that doesnt mean i cant tell ppl how not to get caught by users who are actually gaining illegal access to our systems for the purpose of law enforcement. A very clear breach of our civil rights to privacy

i agree with above if you dont upload they dont care

[kRAyZZed]

Also something to point out, if you do choose to share then get yourself a nice proxy or 10 to make it alot harder to get your ip....

I myself dont use p2p apps anymore but i dont go online without using a proxy of sorts, i monitor all my ports at all times and I use software to monitor all incoming and outgoing packets (sometimes you can find some rather interesting things on your machine), in an impersonal place like the net, to a script kiddie intent on doing some damage to your machine with the latest tool he downloaded your just an ip number, so i prefer to take as many precautions as possible, paranoid? maybe but safer too.....

[zendawn]

Originally Posted by kRAyZZed

Now i am only stating this for reference purposes and I have to say I no longer tolerate copyright violations (hence my leaving the k-lite project) but that doesnt mean i cant tell ppl how not to get caught by users who are actually gaining illegal access to our systems for the purpose of law enforcement. A very clear breach of our civil rights to privacy

Again another over-reaction from business over a crime that costs them money. If only as much effort was put into the crimes business do, that costs LIVES.

Fecking Facists

[luftys]

Originally Posted by zendawn

Again another over-reaction from business over a crime that costs them money. If only as much effort was put into the crimes business do, that costs LIVES.

Fecking Facists

that right
For killing or rapeing some one you only get 6 months in side for down loading mp3 you can get up to a year that is wrong

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by luftys

that right
For killing or rapeing some one you only get 6 months in side for down loading mp3 you can get up to a year that is wrong

not sure about your 6 months bit , but i see where you are coming from

[zendawn]

Originally Posted by luftys

that right
For killing or rapeing some one you only get 6 months in side for down loading mp3 you can get up to a year that is wrong

Below is a typical example of Corporate manslaughter that was white washed over.
http://www.simonjones.org.uk/

[danielf]

Originally Posted by luftys

For killing or rapeing some one you only get 6 months in side for down loading mp3 you can get up to a year that is wrong

You're clearly reading the wrong newspapers mate.

[zendawn]

Originally Posted by danielf

You're clearly reading the wrong newspapers mate.

I think he was exagerating for effect.
Altho as the example I posted earlier shows, people do get away with murder. Allegedly.

[Foo Fighter]

Prison is like a holiday nowadays i know people who hapilly go for a break

Theres no chance they'd take you to prison for this, people rob all sorts and get away with it

[DrAwesome]

Originally Posted by Foo Fighter

Prison is like a holiday nowadays i know people who hapilly go for a break

Theres no chance they'd take you to prison for this, people rob all sorts and get away with it

No NTL though they have Sky, full gym, spa, tennis courts, full size swimming bath, 3 course meals & air conditioning in every cell some of the prisoners like it so much once their term is up they re-offend to get back in.

Holme House can offer a variety of employment opportunities within its modern workshop complex. These are complemented and supported by a purpose built Education Department offering both part time and full time classes and acclaimed Family Learning Group. HMP Holme House also offers an Offending Behaviour Programme run by a multiââ‚ƚ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“disciplina ry team, a Therapeutic Community and a purpose built Gym consisting of Sports Hall, Weights room, all weather pitch and Fitness Suite

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by DrAwesome

No NTL though they have Sky, full gym, spa, tennis courts, full size swimming bath, 3 course meals & air conditioning in every cell some of the prisoners like it so much once their term is up they re-offend to get back in.

Holme House can offer a variety of employment opportunities within its modern workshop complex. These are complemented and supported by a purpose built Education Department offering both part time and full time classes and acclaimed Family Learning Group. HMP Holme House also offers an Offending Behaviour Programme run by a multiââ‚ƚ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“disciplina ry team, a Therapeutic Community and a purpose built Gym consisting of Sports Hall, Weights room, all weather pitch and Fitness Suite

and all just around the corner from me

Originally Posted by DrAwesome

No NTL though they have Sky, full gym, spa, tennis courts, full size swimming bath, 3 course meals & air conditioning in every cell some of the prisoners like it so much once their term is up they re-offend to get back in.

Holme House can offer a variety of employment opportunities within its modern workshop complex. These are complemented and supported by a purpose built Education Department offering both part time and full time classes and acclaimed Family Learning Group. HMP Holme House also offers an Offending Behaviour Programme run by a multiââ‚ƚ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“disciplina ry team, a Therapeutic Community and a purpose built Gym consisting of Sports Hall, Weights room, all weather pitch and Fitness Suite

Holme house huh?

KNow a few guys that work there, they paint a different picture of the place.
After the last riot there I was informed by a friend that the guys rioted because they are locked up , in some cases for 23 hours a day because there isnt enough staff to even allow them to make their allotted phone call to family. They do not have sky TV in all cells, although that is somehtign that is being looked into. Holme house houses several categories of prisoner, those that want to reform to those that make constant threats to officers and their families and do indeed try and stab the prison officers at every opportunity. I'd imagine that if you co-operate you get to use the facilities as a reward for the efforts you make into your own rehabilitation. If you want to know the truth about a prison speak to the people that work there, ask them about their daily threats of violence and murder and rape etc. I have been told by several people it is an horrendous place to work, it would be worse to live there.

[luftys]

Originally Posted by danielf

You're clearly reading the wrong newspapers mate.

well I am a man we all exagerate 2inc=1foot