British summer time - Page 3

ian@huth · 24-03-2004, 20:40

I don't know why there is all this talk about farmers wanting daylight saving. If they are dealing with animals, the animals don't give a toss about the time. Their body clocks dictate how they have to be looked after. If animals aren't involved then the farmer gets up when it is light enough to see what he is doing and works as long as it is needed. There are still the same number of daylight hours in a day whether you have daylight saving or not.

Stuart · 24-03-2004, 20:46

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Originally Posted by ianathuth

I don't know why there is all this talk about farmers wanting daylight saving. If they are dealing with animals, the animals don't give a toss about the time. Their body clocks dictate how they have to be looked after. If animals aren't involved then the farmer gets up when it is light enough to see what he is doing and works as long as it is needed. There are still the same number of daylight hours in a day whether you have daylight saving or not.

I don't know why, but we were taught at school it was so that farmers wanted more daylight in the morning. Maybe this is so they can milk their animals or prepare them for market, and then send the milk out or go to market in the Afternoon.

I know we have dairies, but the laws were passed several years ago. There are other reasons as well, apparently.

zendawn · 24-03-2004, 20:53

If anyone wants more info on daylight savings the site below some usefull info.

http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/

dilli-theclaw · 24-03-2004, 21:28

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Originally Posted by WNA

What about your little one though?

What about my little one?

**Paul** · 24-03-2004, 22:10

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Originally Posted by ZrByte

How does it cost millions??? Last time I checked I didnt have to pay to put the clock back :pp

A lot of businesses have to manually change time related systems twice a year.

As to why do we do it - I believe it was to give farmers more daylight in the morning during the war - a war which I believe ended some years ago now.

Ramrod · 24-03-2004, 22:13

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Originally Posted by pem

A lot of businesses have to manually change time related systems twice a year.

As to why do we do it - I believe it was to give farmers more daylight in the morning during the war - a war which I believe ended some years ago now.

Yep and (afaik) licensing hours were set as they are to increase productivity during WW1....

MadGamer · 24-03-2004, 22:38

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

What about my little one?

Will he want to get up earlier as the clocks are changing?

Stuartbe · 24-03-2004, 22:43

Ahh Brithish summertime... More server warning messages !!!!

The system has auto ajusted the clock

zendawn · 24-03-2004, 22:48

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Originally Posted by pem

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As to why do we do it - I believe it was to give farmers more daylight in the morning during the war - a war which I believe ended some years ago now.

According to the website I posted earlier, farmers opposed the introdution of DST as it upset the body clocks of their animals.

About twelve months after Willett began to advocate daylight saving (he spent a fortune lobbying), he attracted the attention of the authorities and Mr. Pearce later Sir Robert Pearce introduced a Bill in the House of Commons to make it compulsory to adjust the clocks. The bill was drafted in 1909 and introduced in Parliament several times, but it met with ridicule and opposition, especially from farming interests. Generally lampooned at the time, Willett died on March 4, 1915.

Stuart · 24-03-2004, 22:59

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Originally Posted by Stuartbe

Ahh Brithish summertime... More server warning messages !!!!

The system has auto ajusted the clock

You think you have problems.. Try dealing with a lab of 60 machines that all do that....

Not a problem now. Even though we have 300 machines in the labs, they are synchronised with the domain controller..

danielf · 24-03-2004, 23:01

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Originally Posted by WNA

Will he want to get up earlier as the clocks are changing?

My mum works in a nursery, and she tells them it takes the toddlers a good week or so to get used to changed rhythm.

Stuartbe · 24-03-2004, 23:14

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Originally Posted by scastle

You think you have problems.. Try dealing with a lab of 60 machines that all do that....

Not a problem now. Even though we have 300 machines in the labs, they are synchronised with the domain controller..

CSC have 3000+ servers that need the time change box ticking.... I will gladly swap m8

**Chris** · 24-03-2004, 23:35

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Originally Posted by snodvan

So? I am sure that if the British Isles were upside down then those in Scotland would not give a monkey's about England. I am most certainly NOT a Euorphile (?is that a word) - but I would genrally align the UK clock to Western European time

Iceland, Ireland and Portugal aren't on Central European Time and frankly there's no argument for putting us on permanent BST just to make us like the rest of Europe - they would still be an hour ahead of us for 6 months of the year because their clocks go forward an hour this weekend too. In terms of alignment with the Greenwich meridian, France should be on the same time as us, not the other way round. And by that measure, Spain, Germany and Benelux should be as well.

Incidentally, it's not just Scotland that would suffer half a morning of darkness if we switched to permanent BST, a fair chunk of the north of England would suffer as well.

But you're right, if things were reversed we probably wouldn't care a fig about you soft southern jessies anyway.

Flubflow · 24-03-2004, 23:46

Ah, BST.
I remember it well because it has always been a great moment in NTL thickery when the next days EPG update still stays on GMT so, to you and I, it then goes from a previously unbearable 12:10am to an utterly useless and totally unfuriating 01:10am for the next 6 months until we go back to GMT again.
I think this year, assuming it does indeed happen again, I will make a very determined effort to get to the bottom of it with the person(s) at NTL responsible for this debacle.

Theodoric · 25-03-2004, 19:57

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Originally Posted by peachey

it's absurd

I wish they would stop doing it

they did stop once a few years ago but started up
again for some reason

The reason is that, despite appearances to the contrary, not everyone in the UK lives in the south of England. The Scots apparently objected (for some strange reason) to having to wait until 10 o'clock before the sun arose in mid-winter. More seriously, I believe that it caused an increase in traffic accidents.