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Old 21-03-2004, 02:22   #31
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Maybe they are (whether consciously or not) looking for something to blame for their daughter's murder. It is natural for people, when faced with the death of a loved one to look for someone or something to blame.
Exactly, and since the internet and pornography and "violent web sites" are the current hot topic, they make an easy target.

It reminds me a lot of the Anti-Dungeons and Dragons campaigns of the late '70s and early '80s where D&D etc were blamed for children committing suicide.

The fact that they may have had a disfunctional family life or problems at school or just split up from a girlfriend etc etc obviously had *NO* bearing on the matter...
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Old 21-03-2004, 14:15   #32
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The current laws are a nonsense and an embarassment. 16 year olds (and a lot younger kids) can easily access porn anyway and to have a situation where someone can a) have sex and b) pose for nude photos but *cannot* legally *see* the results for two years is utterly ridiculous.
yep i totally agree with you, here is some commentary on the debate......

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after 23 years in the courts, passing judgement on many sexually explicit videos, she had concluded that pornography "is not about the enjoyment of sex, it's about denigration, it's about violence".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3553583.stm

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Old 21-03-2004, 20:50   #33
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after 23 years in the courts, passing judgement on many sexually explicit videos, she had concluded that pornography "is not about the enjoyment of sex, it's about denigration, it's about violence".
Alas "amusing" is not the word I'd choose to use...

It's also complete balderdash, as are her subsequent comments:

"These are the people you will find on your pornographic videos ... what choice do they have?" she asked.

If she'd been watching Sky One etc recently, she would have seen documentaries about people who *willingly* work in the porn industry, who are not abused, violated, denigrated or forced into it.

I know plenty of people who work in various areas of the sex industry and *all* of them are doing it because that's what they *want* to do. To characterise the entire industry in this way is ludicrous.

She went on: "I thought we believed in protecting the rights and the dignity of all human beings!"

Now this I can *entirely* agree with! Nobody should be forced into working in the sex industry. However she doesn't seem to realise that "protecting the rights" *INCLUDES* them having the *right* to perform in porn films etc if they want!

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Martin Turner, a 37-year-old lead guitarist "in a hard rock band", warned that 18 was the earliest people should be allowed to watch porn, otherwise it could end up making its way around the schools.
I think Martin should do a little more research because porn is *ALREADY* making its way around schools as a recent documentary demonstrated!

The point is, once again, to educate children so they understand that sex is not the be-all and end-all of a relationship.

One final point, I wonder what opinion Jackie Storer, of the BBC News Online political staff, has about the matter? Let's look at her closing statement:

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As the debate moved on to other weighty matters, including the pros and cons of euthanasia, some delegates left the auditorium, eager for a lungful of bracing, but fresh, Southport air.
"Bracing, but fresh, Southport air"? Could it be she's implying that the whole discussion was so nasty that people had to get away from it?

If so, *why* did they wait until the *end* rather than walking out early and only coming back for the vote...???
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