Immigrants allowed in unchecked

[Ramrod]

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THE MINISTER in charge of immigration had to admit yesterday that key checks on immigrants from Eastern Europe were waived without her knowledge or that of senior officials in her department.

The Immigration Minister told MPs yesterday that the key checks were waived because a backlog of 7,000 applications had built up in the Sheffield office by last summer.

FFS ...thats one way to run a country

[Womble]

Well Ramrod, another controversial thread. I do agree, but I guess there will be a few bleeding hearts that don't. But dont be fooled by their propagander after all it was the Tories that let the them in to start with, Labour just ballsed it up even more (but what haven't they screwed up?).
My theory is, sucessive govenments let in immigrants to keep the wages down that way they keep big business happy and keep us peasents in our place!!
Viva the revolution, let there blood line our streets, only then will they listen!

[Julian]

Yeah I guess it is another controversial thread.

This will continue to rumble on ad infinitum until some real action is taken.

We will have an election in this country within the next year or so, the party that lays out clear plans to deal with the situation, to give help where there is genuine need whilst remembering the natives of this country who are also in need, will surely find favour with the electorate IMO.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Womble

Well Ramrod, another controversial thread. I do agree, but I guess there will be a few bleeding hearts that don't. But dont be fooled by their propagander after all it was the Tories that let the them in to start with, Labour just ballsed it up even more (but what haven't they screwed up?).
My theory is, sucessive govenments let in immigrants to keep the wages down that way they keep big business happy and keep us peasents in our place!!
Viva the revolution, let there blood line our streets, only then will they listen!

I think that unfortunately it will end with spilt blood some time in the future, things can only get worse for this country. People from other countries even think the same and cant understand how this little island with very few reserves can be expected to support every tom, dick or harry that decides to make this place their home.

The warning signs are there, action will only be taken when things get totally out of hand and there is lots of violence. I am not condoning it but I have the sense to realise where this will all end up!

[Ramrod]

Minister misled Commons

Beverley Hughes, the immigration minister, is accused of misleading the Commons over the true extent of her departmentââ ¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s covert policy that relaxed checks on foreign migrants.

[paulyoung666]

its all coming out now isnt it , i just dont understand this country , i reckon we should be more like australia and lock em all up before sending them back or letting them in if they are deemed suitable , too bluddddddy soft we are

[Ramrod]

We are 'soft' because of human rights laws but I wonder why the human rights of the dead (and those yet to die in future atrocities) are not considered. It seems to be a worse crime to inconvenience people in the name of fairness than to allow that fairness to facilitate mass murder.
*edit* I think I've confused this thread with the one about the Madrid bomb blasts

[deadite66]

too many human rights and not enough human responsibilities

[punky]

My parents are trying to move to move permanantly to the US, and they want me to follow. Its currently been 6 years and many thousands of pounds, they are still only 75% the way there, and thats not even including me, thats still to be paid for. I wish they would just skip a load of key checks were skipped for them and they were just let them in.

[Chris W]

I dont understand how we can give refuge to illegal immigrants.... lets say for example, they have come from the former eastern bloc. Refugees are supposed to stop in the first safe country that they arrive in. To get to the UK they have to travel through Czech republic...Austria... Germany... Luxembourg... France... then the UK. Are none of these countries safe?!

I have no problem with people wanting to migrate to the UK, infact, my g/f came here from Thailand, BUT i expect people who want to migrate to do it through the correct channels. Apply for a visa, pay the money, have the interview etc.

The immigration system needs to be dramatically changed, but it is too much of a political hot potato to ever have any drastic changes made to it.

[paulyoung666]

yes they are , we are just too soft

for me , when they get over the channel and are picked up , they should be sent straight back

Even if the report is true, The immigrants still have to deal with the large amount of resentment and racism that some of the public seem to think they have the right to inflict upon these people, many of them are genuie and are fleeing from abuse of there nations powers and again most of them (even those not escaping politiical issues) provide a service to the british people.

Where would the NHS be without people from outisde the UK? While some of them may misuse the service this is more than made up for by the fact that the NHS is being saved by outside workers.

The Issue is never black and white and we must be careful about this

[deadite66]

Originally Posted by Damien

Even if the report is true, The immigrants still have to deal with the large amount of resentment and racism that some of the public seem to think they have the right to inflict upon these people, many of them are genuie and are fleeing from abuse of there nations powers and again most of them (even those not escaping politiical issues) provide a service to the british people.

Where would the NHS be without people from outisde the UK? While some of them may misuse the service this is more than made up for by the fact that the NHS is being saved by outside workers.

The Issue is never black and white and we must be careful about this

i don't think raping 3rd world countries of their medical staff is something to be proud of.

[Shaun]

From what I understand they were people already living here but applying to work/start their own business

[SMHarman]

Damien - with respect as a 17 year old it is all very well to support a 3rd term when you don't have to pay for that 3rd term.

The NHS may be being saved by these outside workers, but the domino effect is that the healthcare systems of the Phillipines and many other countries are being decimated by our poaching of staff. The Indian doctors who moved over here and propped up the NHS in the 60s wanted to come here with their families and integrate.

Those fleeing abuse from their nations should be glad to settle in any safe nation, Germany, France etc, they migrate here as the benefits system supports them to a far more generous (though in reality hardly generous) level than in those countries.

And then, the costs of supporting this do not come from your wage packet. I'm sure you will still be pro-Blair when you are 21 and graduating having had 3 years of limited support from the Government and been university educated while the system was in a state of transition and scholarships and bursaries from alumni were not in place to support the educational institution going forward.

That said - I'm glad that as a 17 year old you have decided to opt into the political decision making process and make your views known. Too many of your peers don't care and then get mad when they can vote but don't and don't see change.