New Tiscali payg BB service - rumour

[erol]

The following info has been passed to me. At this moment in time it is still a 'rumour' and may not turn out to be ture. What is definately true is that from the middle of the year BT Wholesale will be introducing a range of wholesale DSL products that are metered by usage (and possibly by distance as well) in addition to their existing 'flat rate' wholesale products. These products will have a lower monthly fixed cost for ISP's but will charge for moving data from local exchange to ISP (middle mile) based on how much data is moved (and possibly on where it is moved from). These new products will undoubtedly lead to many more retail options for BB usage based on some for of pay as you go basis. So the Tiscali rumour is very credible in light of this. A bit of early mover advantage in this 'payg' market segment.

Anyway the rumour goes as follows.

"Tiscali UK is launching a pay-as-you-go broadband service later in the spring. The 512k services cost £19.99 a month (the same as BT's recently announced BT Broadband Basic) and give punters those choice of either 50 hours online a month or 1Gb monthly limit"
"Punters who exceed this limit will then pay just 2p per minute on the 50-hour package and 2p per Mb for the 1Gb package. Just in case consumers get carried away, Tiscali is capping monthly bills at £50 "

If this is true I would say this product is better value than the recently announced BT BB Basic deal - but still now where near as attractive as metronets payg deal.

[Frank]

Oh dear me. Cheers for posting Erol.

[kronas]

i knew we should have done more to stop this capping nonsense, i hope this is not true!!!!!!!!

[MovedGoalPosts]

Originally Posted by erol

<snip>Anyway the rumour goes as follows.

"Tiscali UK is launching a pay-as-you-go broadband service later in the spring. The 512k services cost £19.99 a month (the same as BT's recently announced BT Broadband Basic) and give punters those choice of either 50 hours online a month or 1Gb monthly limit"
"Punters who exceed this limit will then pay just 2p per minute on the 50-hour package and 2p per Mb for the 1Gb package. Just in case consumers get carried away, Tiscali is capping monthly bills at £50 "

If this is true I would say this product is better value than the recently announced BT BB Basic deal - but still now where near as attractive as metronets payg deal.

Well the Tiscali product is true according the The Register:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/22/36165.html

[erol]

Originally Posted by kronas

i knew we should have done more to stop this capping nonsense, i hope this is not true!!!!!!!!

There is nothing wrong (imo) with capped services, payg services and services aimed at low users provide that

1) They are clearly marketed as such
2) Unmetered options exist as well

Basically choice is good imo. This Tiscali product is an option (as I understand it) and will run alongside their existing uncapped products.

[themelon]

Makes ntls cap look like value for money 30gb a month.

More caps are gonna happen im afraid, the UKs network isnt good enough to cope with Millions of people and rising on Broadband, downloading 20gb a day!! There just isnt the infastructure, people are under the illusion that things will continue to be cap free and everyone can download 20gb a day, it aint gonna happen, the companies are doing it for our own benefit really!! Either that or experience 14440kbs speeds through a ADSL Modem

[erol]

Originally Posted by themelon

More caps are gonna happen im afraid, the UKs network isnt good enough to cope with Millions of people and rising on Broadband, downloading 20gb a day!! There just isnt the infastructure,

I am sory but from what I understand about the UK's infrastructure - that is just plain rubbish. 90% of the fibre in the ground is simply unused. That is not an infrastructure that 'can not cope' - it is an infrastrucutre that is not being used.

Yes there are some issue around the first/last mile. However if access to the massive unused capcity that exists in the UK was available to thrid parties, either commercial or community, at prices that were a true reflection of the costs of provision, then even this bottleneck could be dealt with. With mini DSLAMs cable of delivering multi mb connections of existing copper pair costing < $5000 (and falling) and commodity technologies like wifi the last/first mile is not the problem. Access to the maaasive unused capacity that is already in the ground is the problem.

What actual evidence do you have that the 'UK's infrastructure can not cope'?