Gay channel

Originally Posted by zendawn

I do hope your not equating a Gay channel with a hardcore porn channel?
Being gay is not just about who you have sex with?
Also yes you could say there was a conspiracy to stop showing hardcore porn in peak time hours. I for one do not like to have to pay to watch sex between consenting adults.
Paying to watch sex is just as sad as paying a prostitute to have sex.

Porn should be free for all.

Hell yeah free porn!!

No it wasnt my intention to link hardcore porn into being gay. I was just saying that as a fan of porn that I dont feel discriminated against because I cant have what I want. Strange annalogy I know but......well yeah odd.

[Alanmelon]

Originally Posted by zendawn

Being gay is not just about who you have sex with?

Perhaps someone could educate me on this, but I thought that if you chose one thing with which to define the difference between heterosexuals and homosexuals it would be exactly this.

In which other ways would you define being 'gay' and does that then mean that all 'gay' people exhibit these definitions?

Originally Posted by Tristan

Um... well they kind of are, actually...

I disagree, I think people who 'think' this are blatantly ignorant with the world they are living in today.

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by Mick

I disagree, I think people who 'think' this are blatantly ignorant with the world they are living in today.

I think he means minority as in

Originally Posted by dictionary.com

1. The smaller in number of two groups forming a whole.

[LostintheNW]

Alan being gay isnt just about having sex with someone of the same sex, its actually about loving and caring, genuinely having feelings for this person, the same way in which someone who is heterosexual has those feelings about the opposite sex.

[Alanmelon]

Okay, sorry, just my interpretation of the word sex Thats enough debating for one day for me!

[zendawn]

Originally Posted by Alanmelon

Perhaps someone could educate me on this, but I thought that if you chose one thing with which to define the difference between heterosexuals and homosexuals it would be exactly this.

In which other ways would you define being 'gay' and does that then mean that all 'gay' people exhibit these definitions?

I'll leave it to someone who is a gay to reply to that, but I think you'll find the sexuality spectrum includes all colors.

[bigitup_j]

Here's the definition of minority::
1. The smaller in number of two groups forming a whole.
2. A group or party having fewer than a controlling number of votes.

3. An ethnic, racial, religious, or other group having a distinctive presence within a society.
4. A group having little power or representation relative to other groups within a society.

so homosexual persons are in the minority, techincally speaking - within the UK. Meaning, there are more hetrosexual people, than homosexual people. But, that does not mean to say that there are only a few. I believe the figure 1 in 10 persons are homosexual - so that's around 6,000,000 gay people in the country. Of course the figure is probably completely wrong, but you get the idea.

In respects to a Gay Channel, well in the UK there are no gay lifestlye channels (of course there are GayDate TV and Gaydar Radio, but they're not really lifestyle).

There obviously is not a demand for a gay channel on ntl at the moment. 1.3million digital customers, 10% is 130,000. But, many gay people many not care about a gay channel on ntl. It all depends on the demand for the channel. Someone has already posted that ntl don't discriminate when chosing channels, so ntl won't discriminate (ntl aren't that bad! They do have moral standards!)

well that's all i'm saying

Originally Posted by downquark1

I think he means minority as in

But who says they are smaller? Nobody knows how many gay people they are to straight people, but because being gay is considered to be 'wrong' by alot of people (still in this day and age) people are automatically assuming there are more straight people to gay people.

[zendawn]

Originally Posted by bigitup_j

obviously is not a demand for a gay channel on ntl at the moment. 1.3million digital customers, 10% is 130,000. But, many gay people many not care about a gay channel on ntl. It all depends on the demand for the channel. Someone has already posted that ntl don't discriminate when chosing channels, so ntl won't discriminate (ntl aren't that bad! They do have moral standards!)

well that's all i'm saying

Well the old 'I'm not homophobic but..' ploy won't wash. Just because there isn't a demand doesnt mean they shouldnt show a gay lifestyle channel. The horse racing channels may have some demand, but there are pleanty of animal rights activists who would not like that sort of channel on the system.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Mick

But who says they are smaller? Nobody knows how many gay people they are to straight people, but because being gay is considered to be 'wrong' by alot of people (still in this day and age) people are automatically assuming there are more straight people to gay people.

The statistics tell us that homosexuals are in the (numerical) minority - until new evidence tell us otherwise, they remain a 'minority'.

Well the old 'I'm not homophobic but..' ploy won't wash. Just because there isn't a demand doesnt mean they shouldnt show a gay lifestyle channel. The horse racing channels may have some demand, but there are pleanty of animal rights activists who would not like that sort of channel on the system

.

You're missing the point - such channels needs to be econimically viable - if the interest is not percieved to be there, NTL simply won't buy in to a channel they feel they won't make money from.

[bigitup_j]

Originally Posted by zendawn

Well the old 'I'm not homophobic but..' ploy won't wash. Just because there isn't a demand doesnt mean they shouldnt show a gay lifestyle channel. The horse racing channels may have some demand, but there are pleanty of animal rights activists who would not like that sort of channel on the system.

fair enough. i see what you mean, bearing in mind there has to be a gay lifestlye channel first! i believe the new one, testing on sky, is to be a softcore porn channel, at £4.99 per night! (according to digitalspy member)
but couldn't be wrong.

Originally Posted by zendawn

Well the old 'I'm not homophobic but..' ploy won't wash

who said i don't like gay people...who said i wasn't gay infact.

[LostintheNW]

Homosexuals are only in the numerical minority as there are still idiots around who believe it to be wrong, plus where on your census form does it say - whats your sexuality? so until being gay is socially acceptable everywhere and that question can be asked, there will never be true figures

[zendawn]

Originally Posted by bigitup_j

fair
who said i don't like gay people...who said i wasn't gay infact.

No not you, but the reply from the NTL employee (i think) who said NTL werent homophobic, but there wasnt a demand.

[bigitup_j]

i see, cheers