Gay channel - Page 4

Alanmelon · 08-03-2004, 08:17

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Originally Posted by Rillington

Gaydate TV is the gay version of the The Dating Channel, which is for heterosexual people. ntl chooses to take hetero dating channel but not the gay version even though they are made by the same company. People might conclude that ntl have intentionally chosen not to take the gay version, only the hetero version, and that the decision was anti-gay.

I think you make some good points, but I'm not sure that this particular arguement holds. I think the reasoning behind this is again down to demand and availability of broadcast space. The Dating Channel launched first and likely at a time when ntl could afford to offer it carriage, Gaydate TV came along later.
Also, assuming that demand and limited space play a part, as a manager of ntl, if you had to choose one or the other, surely you'd plump for the channel with potentially greater viewing figures (working on the assumption that there are more heterosexuals in the population)

Sam B · 08-03-2004, 11:03

OK, I have responded to this type of thread before, but for those that never saw it over on the other forum.

ntl isn't homophobic in it's channel selection policy. There is no policy of not launching gay channels. All channels are treated equally, and we launch channels based on customer demand, contractual negotiations and other relevant factors. The channels also have to actually want to launch on ntl. We spoke with two gay channels last year who didn't want to launch on cable at that time.

There is no 'evidence' that ntl won't launch gay channels, as has been implied in this thread. I am involved in the process for selecting channels to launch, and there is absolutely no discrimination against any channel genre.

There is a lot of speculation on this forum at all times about ntl, and I don't actually have the time to respond to most of it, but I wanted to set the record straight on this point as it is completely untrue.

Sam

Tristan · 08-03-2004, 12:15

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Originally Posted by poolking

Kronas,

How do you know that sky has space to fill??

Have you actually asked them?

I hate it when people make assumptions without at least checking.

The number of channels, and the amount of available space on the satellite platform is nothing whatsoever to do with Sky. They only have a limit of 899 EPG spaces.

The amount of bandwidth available, and used, is down to the satellite operators, like Astra. There are details on many websites (such as DS), but it's generally agreed that there's plenty of space for a while yet.

gazmanc · 08-03-2004, 12:16

What a can of worms I have opened!. Although I would love NTL to carry this channel. I dont for one second think that they are homophobic. It probably all comes down to money, NTL being a business and in the business of making money.

orangebird · 08-03-2004, 13:04

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Originally Posted by gazmanc

What a can of worms I have opened!. Although I would love NTL to carry this channel. I dont for one second think that they are homophobic. It probably all comes down to money, NTL being a business and in the business of making money.

Maybe if this question gets asked enough, it might get answered...

WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT A 'GAY' CHANNEL????

(apart from the sexual orientation of it all...) ?

asdf · 08-03-2004, 13:06

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Originally Posted by gazmanc

What a can of worms I have opened!. Although I would love NTL to carry this channel. I dont for one second think that they are homophobic. It probably all comes down to money, NTL being a business and in the business of making money.

Hallelujah!

Glad someone realises that it's down to money and as Sam B says above, some channels just don't want to pay to launch on Cable, yet.

asdf · 08-03-2004, 13:07

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Originally Posted by orangebird

WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT A 'GAY' CHANNEL????

(apart from the sexual orientation of it all...) ?

I'd love to know the answer to this also, as I thought homosexual people wanted to be accepted and treated equally, yet they need their own TV channel?

I wouldn't say "ours" are hetrosexual only!

gazmanc · 08-03-2004, 17:50

Gay tv viewing I would imagine deal with gay issues that are not given any airtime at the moment. For example issues like health advice for young gay men and woman, a portal for young gay people to help them come to terms with there sexualality, and how best to deal with telling friends and family, advice about safe areas we can go out and be safe. I wish I would have such a valuble tool when I was coming out. It was a very scary time for me, but i got through it ok. Not all my friends had such a good time of it.

Russ · 08-03-2004, 18:23

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Originally Posted by kronas

and you lament others for having a bais

What are you trying to say

Tumble weed · 09-03-2004, 17:04

Today Gay TV started test transmissions on Sky. Here's a couple of screen grabs...

Shaun · 09-03-2004, 17:19

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Originally Posted by asdf

I'd love to know the answer to this also, as I thought homosexual people wanted to be accepted and treated equally, yet they need their own TV channel?

I wouldn't say "ours" are hetrosexual only!

I don't know because i have never seen one, but I guess the difference is as stated above, but would you say the same about the Asian channels?

wheeliebin · 09-03-2004, 17:24

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Originally Posted by dellwear

I don't know because i have never seen one, but I guess the difference is as stated above, but would you say the same about the Asian channels?

Personally i dont understand how people are so negative. A gay channel would be for gay people so i dont understand why people take issue with it being a "gay" channel.

Its 2004 and it seems that intolerance and ignorance is still rife.

There's a lot of hypocrisy and double standards about such things on this board.

Russ · 09-03-2004, 17:37

So if there was a gay-orientated channel, does that mean we'd finally see the back of rubbish like Gimme Gimme Gimme??

**Mick** · 09-03-2004, 17:41

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Originally Posted by Russ D

So if there was a gay-orientated channel, does that mean we'd finally see the back of rubbish like Gimme Gimme Gimme??

Hey do not mock Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie, Russ, I thought the earlier, Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie shows were quite funny and you do not have to be gay to like such a comedy programme.

wheeliebin · 09-03-2004, 17:44

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Originally Posted by Russ D

So if there was a gay-orientated channel, does that mean we'd finally see the back of rubbish like Gimme Gimme Gimme??

That's a very funny show.

Just cos it has a gay bloke in it doesnt mean its aimed at the gay community