Microsoft lauds IE as 'the most secure browser'

[Scarlett]

Ahem

Apparently Microsoft had declared that the internet explorer browser is the most secure on the market because so many security holes have been filled !!! (Kind of like saying that they've got the best car on the market becausae we've recalled the model so many times... - Would you drive one ?)

<a href=http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/security/0,39020375,39146084,00.htm>Story here</a>

The obvious implication is that all browsers are a buggy as IE and because micr$oft has filled more holes, it makes it the most secure. So the fact that since I started using Opera (Close to 2 years now!) I've had to perform one update due to a security issue, all the others have enhanced the functionality only, means nothing.

If this is true then I have to applaud the Opera staff for managing to fit as many bugs in to 3.2mb of code as Micro$ofrt fitted into the 50+mb that forms IE.

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Scarlett

Ahem

Apparently Microsoft had declared that the internet explorer browser is the most secure on the market because so many security holes have been filled !!! (Kind of like saying that they've got the best car on the market becausae we've recalled the model so many times... - Would you drive one ?)

<a href=http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/security/0,39020375,39146084,00.htm>Story here</a>

The obvious implication is that all browsers are a buggy as IE and because micr$oft has filled more holes, it makes it the most secure. So the fact that since I started using Opera (Close to 2 years now!) I've had to perform one update due to a security issue, all the others have enhanced the functionality only, means nothing.

If this is true then I have to applaud the Opera staff for managing to fit as many bugs in to 3.2mb of code as Micro$ofrt fitted into the 50+mb that forms IE.

pmsl @ the last bit , the last time i had a look at firebird , it seemed a bit clunky to me , maybe i will try the latest version , firefox is it ????????? , and see what it is like now

[Stuartbe]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

pmsl @ the last bit , the last time i had a look at firebird , it seemed a bit clunky to me , maybe i will try the latest version , firefox is it ????????? , and see what it is like now

I prefer opera - whenever I can use it I do !!!!!! For some IE is a necasery evil !!

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by stuartbe

I prefer opera - whenever I can use it I do !!!!!! For some IE is a necasery evil !!

is it not more of a case of that it is supplied with windows and ppl dont know any different

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

is it not more of a case of that it is supplied with windows and ppl dont know any different

You could argue you need one browser first to download the one you want.

[Stuartbe]

Originally Posted by downquark1

You could argue you need one browser first to download the one you want.

Catch 22 eh !!

It would be great fun if OEM's installed opera before shipping pc's

I bet Bill would be down there like a shot

[philip.j.fry]

Originally Posted by stuartbe

Catch 22 eh !!

It would be great fun if OEM's installed opera before shipping pc's

I bet Bill would be down there like a shot

That's what happened when OEMs started installing netscape originally, they were threatened with losing their licence

Originally Posted by stuartbe

For some IE is a necasery evil !!

Grrrrrrr @ IE only sites

I think MS should be forced to prove that their browser is the most secure, without relying on spywareblaster et al

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by stuartbe

I prefer opera - whenever I can use it I do !!!!!! For some IE is a necasery evil !!

True, I use Opera when given a choice, but we have to use IE at work as one of the sites I use needs IE. It's not a badly designed site, it just needs Windows Authentication to work.

[Scarlett]

Originally Posted by scastle

True, I use Opera when given a choice, but we have to use IE at work as one of the sites I use needs IE. It's not a badly designed site, it just needs Windows Authentication to work.

I have to use IE to access most of the internal sites and web based tools as they are to F**^**&!!! lazy to follow W3C standards... Even then you can get some odd browsing going on. (a popup is produced but the data also appears in the original page as well ?!??!)

[Lew]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

†¦the last time i had a look at firebird , it seemed a bit clunky to me , maybe i will try the latest version , firefox is it ?

Yes

[paulyoung666]

just got it , it seems to work fine , i will have a play and see what i think

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Scarlett

I have to use IE to access most of the internal sites and web based tools as they are to F**^**&!!! lazy to follow W3C standards... Even then you can get some odd browsing going on. (a popup is produced but the data also appears in the original page as well ?!??!)

Actually, it is one site, but it helps us maintain our Windows 2000 domain (used to add/delete accounts, monitor computer usage etc). A lot of the stuff it does needs Admin access to the network, and we didn't want Admin passwords flying across the network in Cleartext..

Mind you, there is no excuse for Laziness. Sites should follow W3C standards. Not all of us use PCs running Windows and IE. Some use other browser, some other OSs and some (like me occasionally) use other devices entirely.

[Richard M]

Originally Posted by philip.j.fry

Grrrrrrr @ IE only sites

That's because of deluded "developers" who seem to think that if it works in IE then it's fine.
These are the same guys who jumped onto the "web development" bandwagon a few years ago, charge like £3000 for 10 pages and more than likely still use standard HTML with <font> tags and imagemaps.

I always use Mozilla for development which closely follows W3C standards, the only problem is the days of work required to make CSS bugs work in IE!

[MadGamer]

OEM versions of software are the legal versions aren't they. What does OEM stand for? ***Im a bit rusty.***

[Richard M]

Original Equipment Manufacturer, or something like that.